I disagree with PCGS' grade.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by C-B-D, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    As a h 10 collector to be honest I wouldn't pay Au. Money for this specimen. To my eyes it is xf 45 at best. I do agree with Mike strike is weak,thus making the coin less eye apealing. As to its skin and color again that is subjective to the buyers taste.some may like others may not....and again these are small coins sometimes hard to see details in both the plus and minus colum.

    This is a Valentine #1 small heavy ,compact ,high date,curved top to 5 ,6 course.185 especially compact tip of shield points to 1 .A peculiarity of the coins of this date is that the denticulations of the milling are not well struck up. Rev. Medium lettering.

    One other reason I wouldn't be paying Au. Money is most dealers here that I buy from sell to me at grey sheet plus 10% some even less. The only time I pay more is to dealers here or on line on had to have specimens,varieties that I know are very rare.
     
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  3. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Gamblers motto- you cant win 'em ALL
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think there's a lot more wear on that coin than you apparently think there is. I see wear on virtually the entire coin, including the fields. Given that, there's simply no way it could, or should, grade any higher than it did. IMO, this is one they got right.
     
  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    If you think it's accurate then I feel confident it's undergraded. :p
     
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    By today's TPG standards, I would agree with you :p
     
  7. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    Looks XF to me as well. Interesting, as I rarely agree with the TPGs. I find they grade too generously.
     
  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I believe the XF-40 is correct. Besides the hit on the A that was mentioned there is a little chunk under the H on the reverse and several minor scratches. The reverse shows less wear. The obverse is clearly circulated and worn. I think the grade is fair.
     
  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    I’m also with the 40-45 crowd, but still like the coin a lot.

    Steve
     
  10. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I am in the XF 45 range due to the rubs on the upper robe area and the hit on the reverse does not help distract some eye appeal. Overall, very nice coin.
     
  11. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Poor strike. Hit on the A. Field at right arm is scrathed pretty good. It is what it is.
     
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  12. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    Pretty coin - I agree it's an XF. Could have been a 45 though. Not AU. Too many soft edges that look like wear to me - I am constantly amazed at the level of original detail that good photography can show on these tiny coins.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    XF and not even close to AU. I'm surprised they did not give it a 45 but I wouldn't. Forgot to write IMO.
     
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  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    AU by details, but no luster
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It has plenty of luster in hand.
     
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  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I can see the luster in the pictures as well. I like it. Pretty and original.
     
  17. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Crack it out and send it to NGC.
     
  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The coin has plenty of luster. Check out the discussion about "luster" and "mint luster."
     
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