Have I Correctly ID'ed This Short Cross Penny?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Aethelred, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I have this as King John, AD 1199-1216, Canterbury Mint, Moneyer Iohan, Spink-1151, Class 5b.

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  3. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    Spot on @Aethelred
    The moneyer Iohan at Canterbury and the hair as two crescents with pellets is a telltale indication of class 5. I think the full class would be 5b2* because of the round top of the letter R in the oversee legend and the scepter dividing RE/X between the E and X. Its a very nice penny of John.
     
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  4. alde

    alde Always Learning

    These things sure are a challenge but it looks like you got it. That's a really nice short cross.
     
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  5. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Thank you @TheRed I have a hard time with these and some of the Edward Pennies, but getting this right is a good sign that I'm making progress (or got lucky). When I bought it, it was in a holder attributed to Henry III.
     
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  6. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

  7. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    You're welcome. Thankfully your coin had the reverse legend largely intact and the bust was well struck. The short-cross pennies can be so aggravating some times. If it wasn't for the fact that they cover three of the most interesting kings of England I would probably pay a lot less attention to them.

    Edward I-II pennies can be an even worse case due to the lack of moneyer. If you don't have it yet, I would highly recommend The Galata Guide to the Pennies of Edward I and II. It is a great guide to the different classes and fairly inexpensive.
     
  8. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    As far as English Hammered references, all I have are Spink and the North books, so I'll have to find that one.

    I consider the era from Henry II to Henry III the most interesting in English history and I'm especially fond of Richard and John.
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    That’s a nice one, congrats.
     
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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    cool coin
     
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