Thick and/or Thin Planchets Question

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  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I am looking at a silver Roosevelt dime (1950-P, PCGS MS61) that is struck on a thick planchet of 54 grains (3.5 grams). The standard weight for a silver dime is 2.5 grams.

    How do I find out if the stock is actually wrong and was struck on a quarter or half dollar stock, or if the stock is correct for a dime but it is just thicker than normal, since I can't measure the coin's edge with it being slabbed? Since it weighs 1 full gram more, is it safe to say it is quarter stock?

    Will the slab always say "quarter stock" or "dime stock" or "half-dollar stock" and just "thin or thick" if the actual stock is correct, but the weight is off?
     
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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The weight of a dime struck on quarter stock would be the area of a dime divided by the area of the quarter. The only variable between the two is diameter, so we can calculate (17.9/24.3) squared times the quarter weight of 5.67 grams.
    I get .5426(5.67) = 3.077 grams. I have seen one example where a clad dime struck on clad quarter stock weighed 3.0 grams.
    However when you substitute the weight of a silver quarter (6.25 grams) the answer that the dime would weigh is 3.4 grams.
    So it seems very possible that this dime is struck on quarter stock.
     
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  4. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Ok, but of it is a 1950 dime, the stock for a silver quarter at that time is 6.3 grams, not clad at 5.6. How would that change the equation?
     
  5. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Just curious - how do you know it weighs 3.5g if it's slabbed? Is the weight on the label?
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Some of these type of mint errors are hard to say if it's rolled thick or thin vs. wrong stock. Can you provide a picture of the slab?

    There is also struck on foreign planchet errors.
     
  7. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Yes. It says "54 grains" which converts to 3.5 grams.
     
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  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    JCro57
    If you read further down,
    I used the silver quarter weight of 6.25 grams.

     
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  10. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Ahhh. I see! I sincerely apologize for my mistake.
     
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  11. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Now I have to research if it is worth the $245 he is asking; kinda thinking "no" as silver quarters go for about $160 in MS. But then maybe there are more thick planchets on quarters than there are dimes. Anyone have an idea?
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    IDK but I would guess the opposite. That there would be more thinly rolled planchets for quarters, and thickly rolled for dimes.
    Paddyman might know.
     
  13. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    I should read up on the minting process but my question is that if it was struck on a quarter planchet why would the weight be lower than that of a quarter?
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not struck on a quarter planchet, struck on quarter stock, a dime diameter blank punched out of silver strip rolled to the thickness used for quarters.
     
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