More falling horsemen

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  1. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    Hello, CONSTANCE II of course struck in Aquileia for 6.16g and 25mm; and at least on one above we see very well the palm leaves.
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    Aquilée – 350/352 – Cf. RIC VIII.156
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    Obv:–
    D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG and A behind the neck
    Rev:– FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO [​IMG] on [​IMG] in the left field
    Minted in Aquileia RIC VIII 156:- [​IMG] AQP [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice. I think I was bidding on that one.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are some of us who refuse to use the term 'Fallen Horseman'. You might argue that te FH2 seated type shows completion but the others show the fall inprogress making the term 'Falling' more appropriate. There was a time that we pointed fingers and corrected such things but lately there seems to be more important ways to satisfy our needs to argue so we don't bother anymore. Kent used Falling in his volume VIII of RIC and also with Carson and Hill in LRBC. Failmezger used Falling in his book on Late Roman Bronze Coins. Dealers I believe should know better have been inconsistent on the matter. I do not know who decided they were better than these guys and started the Fallen rot. I will continue to use Falling. Use what you want and don't worry about it.
     
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  5. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    Your site "forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith" is superb [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  6. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    Constantius II - AE2

    Obv:–
    D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:–
    FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO, soldier standing left, right knee raised, spearing fallen horseman, who is wearing Phrygian helmet, no beard, clutching horse's neck, Γ in left field, dot in centre,
    RIC VIII Constantinople 106.
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    Obv:– D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG
    Rev:– FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO // Γ / •
    Minted in Constantinople : CONSIA [​IMG]
     
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    It kinda makes it difficult when searching for them on vcoins and eBay. Which ever term I use omits the other. I find it easiest to just search “Constantinus” though I get a lot of results the dredge through
     
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  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Another nice one.


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    Constantius II
    Antioch
    5,24 g / 23 mm
    obverse D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right;
    reverse FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO, Gamma in left, soldier, with spiral shield, spearing Horseman,hair in braids, bearded, reaching back towards soldier

    ANZ Antioch 122
    Sear 18170
     
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  9. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    As a big fan of John Kent I had my preference for "falling," and fought those wars on the Moneta list some years back. Looks like things have hardened to an impasse. Ah well, let there be peace. But as for your search problem, why not do an end run? Whether its falling or fallen, it's still "horseman" so why not search on "Constan... horseman reverse"? [insert name of preferred imperial ruler as indicated].
     
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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, that is the best way. When I list them, I put "FEL TEMP horseman" in the title or "FEL TEMP galley" or "FEL TEMP captives" etc.
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I've tried that, it works especially when I am being specific. However, I still miss a lot. Some are listed as battle scene or horse battle and some don't have FEL TEMP or the mint or type in the description. A lot don't show up when looking for specific mints.
    So I do newly listed searches for:
    Constans
    Constantius
    Constantivs
    Constantinus (I have found quite a but of Falling horseman with this search)
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Oh and a few more FH

    IMG_3999.jpg IMG_3947.jpg IMG_3935.jpg cii1.jpg
     
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  13. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    Constantius II - AE2

    Obv:–
    D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:–
    FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO, soldier spearing fallen horseman who is bearded, hair in two braids, clutching horse's neck, and S in the field.
    Minted in Antioch : ANΘ - RIC VIII 150

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  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice! Antioch has a lot of great coins. IMG_2368 (1).JPG IMG_2909.JPG IMG_2920.JPG IMG_3931.jpg IMG_3281.JPG
     
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  15. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    she beautiful series, very nice graphics for this set.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  16. Rayban35

    Rayban35 Active Member

    A small mark, If anyone knows or has already crossed this setback; Thanks for your help, now for me it is not known
    Here's RIC 116
    [​IMG]CONSZ
    or
    [​IMG]CONSA
    but this one? oversight of the burner? or new
    [​IMG] CONSZ
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    thanks you. ;):cool:
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats neat. There's a decent amount of Falling Horseman not in RIC. I guess it's up to you if want to call it unlisted in RIC or RIC 116 unlisted variant. I always go back and forth trying to decide.
     
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