Nevermind I tried to get a answer but too much sarcasm for me

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by roy pho, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    @roy pho

    May I ask you a serious question ? If, before any other posts were made, I had responded and answered your question and simply said - No it is not a Proof, it is just an ordinary business strike - what would your response to my post have been ? Honestly now, what would your response have been ?

    Would you have just accepted that answer and dropped the whole thing ? Or would you have continued posting and disputed and/or questioned my response ?

    Now you may or may not understand why I am asking you this, so I'll tell you. It's to help you understand why you got answers like you did, why the sarcasm was there.

    You see Roy, questions similar to yours are the single most common type question asked on this forum. And it has been the single most common type of question ever since the forum was first created going on 16 years ago. These type of questions are posted every single day, often several times a day. And the result is typically the same. The question gets answered and the answer is almost always the same - no, the coin is not what you think it might be. Which the original poster, the person who asked the question, either disputes the answer outright or questions it like they doubt the validity of the answer they are given.

    So imagine now that has happened literally thousands of times, the same scenario repeats itself over and over and over again. Now imagine you are the one trying to answer the questions. And every time you did answer, the person who asked the question argued with you about it. Would not at least a hint of sarcasm enter into your response ?

    There's two things at play Roy, two things involved. One is people like you asking what they see as simply an honest question. And they ask it because for whatever reason they think they might have really found something. And they want to believe they really found something. I get that, everybody gets that ! Everybody understands that feeling because in most cases at one time or another in their lives they've experienced it too, or at the least something similar.

    The other thing that's involved is the people answering the question. And they know that 99.99% of time the answer is - no, it is not what you think it is, it is not valuable. But every time they tell somebody that the person argues with them about it, certain, or almost certain, in their belief that it really is valuable and the person telling them no it isn't is wrong.

    After a while, that just kind of wears on people. It gets old, they get tired of it. And so when they give answers sarcasm creeps into the answers they give. That's understandable, isn't it ? And then the people like you, well they don't like the sarcasm. And yes, that's understandable too. But is human nature, on both sides.

    So now do you understand why I asked you the question I did when I started this response ? And why the answer to that question is so important ?

    Roy, over the years, and I've been here since the beginning, I've also answered the questions, and without the sarcasm. And done it a thousand times. But even though I do it that way, the response I get from the person asking the question is almost always the same - they argue with me and tell me I'm wrong.

    My purpose in posting all of this is for both sides, the questioner, and those giving the answer. I understand both sides - I get it. And I think a lot of the rest of you get it too. But it is what it is, and I also get that.

    You said above Roy that a lot of your questions on this forum didn't get answered. Well, maybe they didn't, but maybe they did, and you just didn't get the answer you wanted. Or you didn't think it was a complete enough answer. I honestly don't know. What I do know is that it is pretty rare for a question to get asked and not be answered. And usually answered correctly.

    One last thing Roy, yes, it is possible for people to find that truly rare coin. Yes, it does happen. But to be honest with you, you have better chance of winning the Powerball lottery, twice in a row, than you do of finding that truly rare coin.

    Most people know that. And that is also why the sarcasm is present.
     
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  3. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    [​IMG] 1921-1935 Peace Dollar $1.00 $12.6845 + $10 apple premium :cyclops:
     
  4. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    I agree with this statement. Most kids at my High school think they are better then anything and anyone.
     
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  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I was told by some runny-nosed brat on a radio show that their generation is smarter because of their phones. "Okayyyy, big hard lesson comin', honey."
     
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  6. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    I feel like I don't fit in with my peers. Too immature and holier than thou.
     
  7. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Obviously not as smart though, otherwise they would understand the inherent contradiction in everyone being better than everyone else.

    Then they are not your peers. Peers are equals.
     
  8. Surgeprotector

    Surgeprotector Machine Doubling....gets me every time!

    Good thing I never told you about the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel I found while I was on a date with Angelina Jolie.
     
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  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    For what it's worth, until you mentioned your age I assumed you to be much older. And yes.. this is a compliment.

    And my guess is if anyone dared to point this out, most would melt at the very "insult".

    That said, what else could be expected from at least the second generation of participation trophies "winners"?
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The nickel I like, you can keep the babe. Now Nicole Kidman? Let's talk.

    Oh goodie! The kids of people who GOT participation trophies? :vomit:
    At least my kid only thought his first one was cool. He figured it out.
     
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  11. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Isn't that spelled "whiners"?
     
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  12. Surgeprotector

    Surgeprotector Machine Doubling....gets me every time!

    Who knows. I remember when I was younger my father would always tell me "I paid a lot for the encyclopedias on the shelf so look it up yourself!" and I always did, then he would ask me if I got the answer and then discuss it with me. What happened to that? When did "look it up" become "just ask Google" with no discussion. Seems to me that as far as todays technology has taken the human race it has also de-evolved it into a society full of mental incapacity. Sad, very sad.
     
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  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You never hear much from Nicole about politics. It takes a smart woman to not needlessly turn away half of her audience.

    If the shoe fits... and even if it doesn't, we wouldn't want to trigger anyone over a simple misspelling, would we? After all, it is easier to dumb-down the curriculum.
     
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  14. Surgeprotector

    Surgeprotector Machine Doubling....gets me every time!

    Oh no, with Nicole Kidman I found a gold Double Eagle in her flowing red hair while running my fingers through it so I'm keeping them both!
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Dude's "Bogarting" all the babes now. :D:cool:
     
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  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You're going to lose the kiddies with such references, Kurt. ;)
     
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  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No worries, it's in the Urban dictionary. Oh, wait, you meant "babes".
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Like several here, I bet, they also remember when standard transmission shifting was considered the "equalizer" in automotive ability, and when the automatic transmission came, they bemoaned it , as destroying the mystique of the automobile and ridiculed those who adapted to it as destroying mechanical learning. I still know a few who still will only drive a standard, even if they can't feel their feet or grip the wheel. But I refuse to ride with them.
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    A couple of years ago I got a ridiculous deal on a car simply because it had a manual transmission. I bought the car for my daughter and taught her how to drive it.

    She totaled it.
     
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  20. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    I used to think for myself. Now it is so easy to have the computer do it for me I no longer have to think and nothing I write here is my own idea or opinion. Problem is, my brain is atrophying - or so google tells me.
     
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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I consider this "CONFIRMED".
     
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