Hmmm ... looks kind of familiar, doesn't she?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roman Collector, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Now, I'm not calling Charles Barber a plagiarist, but I noticed something when I saw this diademed bust of Faustina (a new acquisition from Frank):

    Liberty head nickel.jpg

    Post your ancient coins that appear to have influenced modern coin design -- or anything else you feel is relevant!
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The date and Liberty in the crown are backwards. Nice job of reversing the obverse.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yes--it better shows the similarity between the portraits.
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have posted this before... BUT, I see that the French were inspired by one of the First Heavy Denarius minted by the Romans:

    France - AV 20 Francs ANGEL (I think @Cucumbor copied the design...) :)
    Later Roman Empire transformed VICTORY into ANGELS
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    RR 265-242 BCE AR Heavy Denarius -  Didrachm Roma-Victory Crawford 22-1 Sear 25.JPG
    Roman Republic
    Anonymous AR Heavy Denarius / Didrachm
    6.55g, 18mm, 6h.
    Rome mint, circa 265-242 BC.
    Obv: Head of Roma right, wearing Phrygian helmet, cornucopiae behind
    Rev: ROMANO, Victory standing right, attaching wreath to long palm, YY in right field.
    Ref: Sear 25; Crawford 22/1; RSC 7.
    From the Eucharius Collection.

    I own both.
     
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  6. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    nickelmonticello.JPG hadrianmonticellocoin.png I think I have seen a Roman reverse even closer to the Monticello on vcoins but I didn't save it. Much closer maybe someone here knows it? This is the closest I could find on a quick search on google images. Not one I own.
     
  7. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    peace-silver-dollar-obverse-2.jpg rhodesrhodos.jpg
    Some style influence for sure with the accessory anyway. Obverse of Rhodos from Rhodes, Greece-not one I own.
     
  8. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    coinboughtprutahfourobverse2.JPG
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    Wreaths from ancients are found throughout numismatic history I believe? Here is a prutah of Mattatias Antigonus, last Judaean King of the Hasmonean dynasty c. 37 BCE.
     
  9. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Campgate(s of Trier)! Haha...

    Only 1593 years apart. ...and the older one is in better shape.
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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    And then there's this:

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    From a denarius of Vespasian:

    Vespasian COS ITER TR POT denarius.jpg
     
  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yes, you can really see the similarities when the Peace dollar image is reversed:

    Peace dollar Rhodes ancient.jpg

    And then there's this Hercules wrestling the Nemian lion reverse type of Constantius I and this 2 pound coin of Gibraltar:

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    And it takes little imagination to see the similarities between this 5 centesimi coin of Italy and the staters of Metapontum.

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  13. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

  14. mgmgmg75

    mgmgmg75 Active Member

    Oh yeah. Maybe the Romans are just better foreseers. You know, of things to come!
     
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  15. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Barber and many of our early mint artists/engravers were obviously influenced and often taught to imitate the ancient masters. Now if the current mint employees could produce a portrait that doesn't look like a caracture, that'd be great!
     
  16. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    Great post...Thanks all.
     
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  17. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

  18. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    I've got to confess—I thought this coin was pretty cool when I first saw it advertised. Particularly the marketing and packaging. I'm not following Roman Collector's posting guidelines however—I don't yet own an Athenian Owl.

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  19. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Jean II le bon, King of France (AD 1350-1364) franc à cheval

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    Monaco 10 francs, AD 1994

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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I know our Mints engravers lack foresight and vision (just look at recent designs) but I never realized just how bad it was until reading every post in this thread and seeing the similarities in ancients. Thank you.
     
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