To the generative gods -- DIS GENITALIBVS

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This reverse type is unique to Crispina, the wife of Commodus, who was childless as far as is known to history.

    We don't know the circumstances surrounding the issuance of this coin. It would seem that the empress had dedicated an altar to the dei genitales, either for having had children, or that she might obtain fertility from them, or that she might commend the child, with which she was pregnant, to their care and protection. The inscription is a dedicatory phrase -- the dative form of the plural, dei genitales ("generative gods") -- and thus means "to the generative gods." The dei genitales were divinities thought by the Romans to be the parents of all things, both animate and inanimate.*

    Crispina also issued coins with the inscription DIS CONIVGALIBVS, perhaps wishing for happiness in marriage. Unfortunately, the wishes expressed on her coins could not be said to have been successful.

    The coin comes with two obverse inscriptions, CRISPINA AVG (earlier; RSC 15) and CRISPINA AVGVSTA (later; RSC 16); it is also known with a left-facing bust (RSC 16a).

    Crispina Dis Genitalibus Denarius.jpg
    Crispina, AD 180-182
    Roman AR denarius, 3.15 g, 19.5 mm, 11 h
    Rome, AD 177-180
    Obv: CRISPINA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right
    Rev: DIS GENITALIBVS, large rectangular altar, garlanded and lighted
    Refs: RIC 281a; BMCRE 31-32; RSC 15; RCV 5999 var.; MIR 18, 8-4a; CRE 277.

    Post anything you feel is relevant!

    *Penn, R. G. Medicine on Ancient Greek and Roman Coins. Seaby, 1994, p. 66.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Crispina (178 - 182 .D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: CRISPINA AVGVSTA, draped bust right.
    R: DIS GENITABILIS, lighted altar.
    17.5mm
    3.15g
    RSC 15
     
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice Denarius @Roman Collector . Always enjoy your education.

    I have a ragged flan of Crispina, but nothing any special:

    RI Crispina m Commodus 177 CE AR denarius 2.29g Juno stdg RIC-283.JPG
    RI Crispina m Commodus 178-182 CE AR denarius 2.29g Juno stdg RIC-283

    Yeah, I looked up this date in Harl's "Coinage of the Roman Economy". I thought that the silver in mine looked a bit peaked... 79% silver in my Denarius... I like those Republic Denarii which approach 99% :)
     
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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    very nice RC, i think she's still missing in my Roman ladies sewing circle...
     
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  6. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Here's another of the Dis Genitalibus theme surrounding the altar - same type, slightly different break pattern:
    Crispina-den1-sm.jpg

    While I agree that the inscription of this type is unique to Crispina, the use of this style altar as the principle image has an earlier precedent in a posthumous denarius of Sabina:

    Sabina-311961899043o-116.jpg

    To The Piety of the Empress: In this case the type is focused on uplifting/upholding the Pietas of the late empress, offering sacrifice for her family, rather than her childbearing. (RC, I am not very familiar with the customs in Roman religion for the veneration of the dead, so feel free to jump in with a more adequate explanation of why an altar appears here.)
     
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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Lovely coins! That Sabina is quite a rarity!

    Altars of various shapes appear on the reverses of many different Roman coins; the "uniqueness" here in the case of Crispina are the deities to whom the altar is dedicated.
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice coin with a neat mystery!

    Here are two altar denarii Domitian struck.

    D40.jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 3.17g
    Rome mint, 81 AD
    RIC 40 (R2). BMC - . RSC - .
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMITIANVS AVG PONT; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: TR P COS VII DES VIII P P; Altar, garlanded and lighted
    Acquired from London Ancient Coins, June 2017.



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    Domitian
    AR Denarius, 3.28g
    Rome Mint, 95-96 AD
    RIC 784 (R2). BMC 237B. RSC 296.
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XV; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP XXII COS XVII CENS P P P; Altar, with two figures of soldiers, flanked by aquilae; under each aquila on top of the altar is a seated captive
    Ex Solidus, eBay, 13 April 2014.
     
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