GTG 1856 $10 Gold

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ilmcoins, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    What do you think on this one?Sending to PCGS this week.

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  3. Wheatmaster101

    Wheatmaster101 U.S. Cent Collector

    63, can't really tell whether or not there is wear on the high points.
     
  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Strange, looks like a scan of a harshly cleaned coin! Nice, wish I had a $10 gold.
     
  5. Wheatmaster101

    Wheatmaster101 U.S. Cent Collector

    Agreed, it is cleaned as well.
     
  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Hard to tell from a static photo, but it looks like wear, not strike weakness, on the eagle wings and talons.

    I see halos around the obverse stars and reverse devices. That always makes me think "cleaned", but it looks like that's the way some of these actually wear.

    I was a bit worried about the denticles, especially on the right obverse and 1-2 o'clock on the reverse, but I see the same sort of effect in PCGS Photograde images, so I guess I need to adjust my mental filter.
     
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  7. USCoinCollector42

    USCoinCollector42 Well-Known Member

    It looks harshly cleaned. As for the grade, I’d say... AU details (cleaned)? I’m a novice when it comes to grading.
     
  8. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    The color might make me lean towards lightly cleaned but could just be the lighting. I think it could come back XF45, maybe AU50 but I'm guessing 45
     
  9. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I say XF at best if it gets a straight grade. If I were to guess, I'd say details; improperly cleaned.
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I agree with AU slider.
    There's a lot of chatter. Gold is expected to have some marks, but there is that gouge under her eye. I can't tell if this has been cleaned or not. I see the scratches but IDK if they are cleaning scratches. If the other posters believe it is cleaned it's AU-details. I don't see it as XF or MS.
    It's still a great coin. Ed Wood sends his regards from the beach at Turks and Caicos.
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Cool! Does that mean we can expect him to weigh in with his authoritative opinion here?

    As soon as the OP posts the result from PCGS?
     
  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I don’t see obvious cleaning. It’s bsggy as can be though. I see a mid au grade because of that. 53-55. Not enough luster and to many marks plus high point rub keep it out of any ms grade. I had a $20 like this. No true wear but really baggy. Came in at 55
     
  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Isn’t the whole point of GTG threads to already have the coin TPG graded so that there’s a reveal and we all learn something from it???
     
  14. man2004

    man2004 Active Member

    At least one top tier service would grade your coin XF40 (maybe XF45). My first thought on the coin was low AU. But, after studying the entire coin (wear, eye appeal, luster, distracting marks, obverse vs. reverse, etc). I think the conspicuous obverse contact marks drop it into the XF category. I noticed the halos too. But, I do not see obvious "hairlines" or other definite evidence of cleaning. One service might call this one cleaned while another might not. But, I grade her XF40 straight grade - no details. And, I will wait patiently for the results. Thank you for sharing this beauty!
     
  15. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    I'd say XF DETAILS, CLEANED (45 if you want a number).
     
  16. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Also at XF 45, without seeing the coin in hand though it's tough to say whether it's been cleaned or not. Circulated gold can look absolutely horrible in photographs and appear cleaned when its just circulation wear.
     
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  17. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    Shipped off today, will report back.
     
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  18. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    I kinda like these ones (where the coin is being sent in, if it wasn't being sent in then it's a waste) because there's no bias involved. A lot of times no matter how hard you try you factor in things like "can't be 65 too big of a price jump" or "this person normally buys in the $150 range from past threads must be a 63" or "he is clearly disappointed with the grade must be a 62 even though it looks 63+" etc. etc. etc.

    Threads like this it's "here is the coin what should it get?". You just have the delayed gratification aspect is the tradeoff.
     
  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    This. Gold is a different animal and photos horribly a lot of times. Maybe it was cleaned, but it's really hard to say with photos and people rush to judgement on gold
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    XF45 or AU50 (if not cleaned) would be my semi-educated guess.
     
  21. AU Details Cleaned
     
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