1913 Wheat Cent - Matte Proof Strike??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by iPen, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    -_-
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It's "silver eagle season."
     
  4. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    OK, my January submission was delivered today, and both of my February submissions for US and World are in Quality Control. I should be able to see the results online by next week!
     
  5. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I'd call if I was you
     
  6. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Results are in... any final guesses?
     
    Dave Waterstraat likes this.
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    JUST POST IT!!!!!!
     
    BigTee44 and Dave Waterstraat like this.
  8. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    LOL the suspense! Here it is:

    It IS a proof! Cleaned, but a proof nonetheless!
    upload_2018-3-28_12-53-39.png
     
  9. Yacorie

    Yacorie Junior Member

    NiCE to see it come back as a proof
     
    iPen likes this.
  10. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Nice!!!
     
    iPen likes this.
  11. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    What do they mean "Proof Details"?

    Is it a Proof or not?

    If so, what grade of "details" does it have?

    Inquiring minds what to know.
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Proof details would, IMHO, mean that the coin is indeed a proof and has a details grade.
     
    iPen likes this.
  13. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    What details?

    Very Fine?

    AU?
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Proof details.

    This is another assumption, and both of which I have made are dangerous, it's like MS details, but it's not MS, it's Proof.
     
  15. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    Looks like the right rims, for it, but I remember reading, I think in the Red Book, that the rims should blaze in light very brightly. In looking at the rims I also notice a slight difference in the thickness of the square part of the rim that is not uniform. But I have never heard of this being abnormal for the matte proof.

    Could this be due to someone grinding the rims to look square? Strong strike for sure....Is it the real McCoy? I certainly am not sure, but I'd look up all the die markers possible for the strike, possibly in an older book you could borrow from the ANA's big Library collection, or leave it up to the graders.

    I'll post a picture of one I thought was a matte proof, quite a few years ago but turned out not to be. Yours looks much more like a Matte Proof.
     
  16. ValpoBeginner

    ValpoBeginner Well Known Supporter

    Superb Info on die markers! :)
     
    iPen and robec like this.
  17. robec

    robec Junior Member

    It means they can't give it a grade because it is impaired, such as a scratch, environmental damage, cleaned, etc. They have determined it is a proof.
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The grading service said that is IS a MPL. That is not in question.
     
    iPen and robec like this.
  19. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Yeah, unfortunately NGC doesn't grade coins like ANACS does. ANACS would say something like "PR-61 DETAILS CLEANED", "PR-58 DETAILS CLEANED", or whatever the grade they think it should be.
     
    Hunting Rare and TypeCoin971793 like this.
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    The rim is off at bottom. Guessing no
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Matte. Matte is a dull finish
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page