Ebay Warning...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tommyc03, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They can't read the information you send in a shipment
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    A good idea. I used to put business cards in my shipments but that was before I joined here. I'll start doing that again and just add the Coin Talk info to the back of each one. Thanks for jostling my memory!
     
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Kind of ironic how the more draconian they get, the more the exact thing they're trying to stop happens
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I get that eBay doesn't want to become a showroom for off-eBay transactions. But assuming every @-sign or ten-digit number in a message is an attempt to evade fees is earning them an awful lot of ill will.

    Hmm. They used to show a complete history of user IDs for any seller on request; now, they obfuscate old IDs, showing only the first and last character for each. I wonder if that's to avoid "disclosing" email addresses, from the days when people used their email address as their ID?

    I had a heck of a time figuring out how to arrange a local pickup for an item I had already bought and paid for on eBay! "Where are you? Let me give you my cell... oh, wait, can't do that. Okay, you know that Burger King on Mulberry Street? Want to meet there at 5? I'll text you when I get there -- no, wait, can't do that either..."
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    There's a reason why PayPal was so desperate to split off from them.
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    A lot more than just one, I'd think.

    Similarly, there's more than one reason I sold my eBay stock during their recent spike and bought more PayPal with it.
     
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  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I'll be shorting them hard if they ever do a fee increase
     
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  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I don't doubt you whatsoever. I'm simply questioning how they could reasonably justify such a transaction took place, or perhaps that's the point?
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    And just another reason I am so glad I departed from e-bay years ago!
    Their policies,fee's, etc...,etc... isn't worth the small profit one now makes.
    Mark my word one day e bay is going to fold up like a cheap shirt.
    I use them now for research , don't sell or buy....any longer!
     
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  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They don't have too really, you pay or sue them basically so really its because they say so if they want to do that.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I can agree with this. They provide the advertising venue and then if someone makes a sale to someone who saw it there and inquired, and cuts out eBays commission, the seller should pay what he signed up to pay. IMO. Jim
     
  13. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Don't give them any ideas on what they're missing or soon you'll have to ship your items to Ebay first so they can 'verify quality' before sending it to the buyer.
     
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  14. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    I thought EBay owned Paypal. When did they split?
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It was a few years ago, I think.

    I got invited to the PayPal IPO. When eBay bought them, I think I got 1.56 shares of eBay for each share of PayPal. Then when they split again, I got one share of each.
     
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  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Problem there though is, when a seller is getting scammed by a fraud and they say it isn't their issue or it's someone else's? They can't have it both ways were they're entitled as an advertiser but responsible for nothing.

    The sellers already paid them anyway through the advertising fee in the contracts of the fee price.
     
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  17. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    This is an interesting policy and response from eBay.

    Many eBay sellers either have their company name fused into their profile name or they directly have their company name or logo in the description.

    I am sure many of you have thus looked them up online as I have, and offered to buy away from the eBay site and for a far cheaper price because you are avoiding their 10%+ fees.

    For example, I purchased this awesome and very dramatic double denomination (cent on dime planchet) for $150 less. I wonder how long eBay will allow sellers to advertise their company name in their eBay listings knowing people like me can just look them up and do deals off-site. I also wonder how they can charge you fees if they can't prove the coin was sold to the same person who inquired you on their email system.

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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    As someone who's been around here for a bit, I have to ask -- did you get it for less than 7 figures? Because if so, you got a real steal! :rolleyes:
     
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  19. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    With shipping I paid $705 and it is graded MS-65 by ANACS. It is in an old holder, but I think it is likely an MS-66 and I am submitting it to NGC. The memorial steps in particular are very defined so I am hoping it will be upgraded.

    I have seen some a little cheaper, but not nearly as dramatic and defined for Roosevelt's head as well as the strike being struck on opposite sides, and with both dates showing. This one has the most pronounced head of Roosevelt I have ever seen. The obverse also has among the strongest strikes of both coins I have seen for an "11 cent" piece. I also can't tell if it has a reeded edge, which I hope it does!

    It also is strange because one half has a rim like a planchet, and the other side is flat like a blank.
     
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  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    @Fred Weinberg
     
  21. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    As I remember there is wording in the "advertiser contract" that the sell will occur through them, which it did , if the buyer saw the object and description, seller, and pricing, so they should be capable of seeking redress. There is a difference between the "problem you describe" and a contractual agreement. The buyer/seller is trying to use it as a free advertising service and keep the difference. If they had waited until expiration of the contract, It is more likely eBay would not have a retort.
     
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