New Claudius As

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  1. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Thanks for the link, that helps. A hefty final price... it'd better be genuine! I'll be interested to hear other opinions, if they're forthcoming.
     
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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I am a huge I Claudius fan, and I'm properly jealous at the sight of your beautiful Claudius. Well done on obtaining such a fantastic sample.

    Here is my cast of emperors from I Claudius

    Augustus:

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    Tiberius:
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    Claudius:

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    Still missing a Nero for now
     
  5. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    Really nice group of coins! Some of the most interesting emporors, IMO.
     
  6. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    I sent the coin off this morning for an expedited evaluation by David Sear. We will see what he has to say about the authenticity. Better safe than sorry! I will let you all know how it shakes out in a week or so :)
     
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  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    A great decision IMO. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
     
  8. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    my Claudius
     
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  9. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    The coin is authentic, according to David Sear. Good to know!
     
  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Excellent news, I'm so glad to hear it!!! Congrats on a fantastic coin! :D
     
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  11. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    I hate negotiating, so I don't even bother searching the BiN or Best Offer listings for anything on Ebay. But I guess it pays off if you like that kind of thing, nice coin!

    I wasn't aware that Claudius As's were especially problematic with forgeries (I don't know much, and as far as I can tell, they are all problematic to some degree :inpain:). Just so happens that 1 of my 3 very first ancient purchases was a Claudius As from the Frank Robinson Auction the other day. Any reason to be concerned?
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I love to barter. It's a game that some are very good at while others, well......
     
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  13. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    Bartering is one thing (exchanging items without currency involved), I just hate the back and forth "How about this"...."How about this"......"Lets just meet in the middle" of negotiating. The expectation that item prices are negotiable just forces sellers to intentionally build in a buffer. They know the price that they want, you know the price that you want to pay. Let's just cut through all the BS and present items at the actual price to begin with!

    I want my coin shopping to be like going to Walmart. I see a price, if I like it then I buy it, if not then I don't. Unfortunately, I'm at a disadvantage with this attitude because everyone else goes into the purchase with the expectation of a half hour long haggle-fest!!
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have lived all over the world (well in many parts anyway), and I've found that negotiating a price is expected in many of those places. Once I discovered this, I enjoyed the experience. I apply the same to coin hunting. When I see a coin I want, I make an offer expecting a counter-offer. Thus the games begin. I know a lot of people, mainly Americans, who dislike bartering like this because , like you said, they are used to going to Walmart and paying the price marked. Believe it or not, I use the negotiating style in many of my day-to-day purchases at Home Depot, Lowes, furniture stores and car buying. For me it's part of the experience.
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are dealers you will offend with that technique and those that greet you with, "I can do better on those prices." It is nice to know which is which.
     
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  16. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    It's funny, I hate it, but my brother is a real Wheeler-Dealer. If I'm ever in the market for a used car or something, he goes, negotiates the price, and makes the purchase for me. He does it because he actually looks forward to the experience.

    When I'm buying used items, I'll say, "I'll give you $100 for that". Then, 100% of the time, they come back with "Hmmm, how about $125". In my head, I feel like screaming, "Did you not hear me? I said I'd give $100, your answer is either Yes or No!"

    I'm too polite to actually let that kind of thing fly out of my mouth. So I say, "No thanks" and walk away, then they chase me down with, "Hey, I'll take $110". Then I feel like screaming, "If you would take $110 then why did you say $125!!!!", of course, I keep that in my head also. I guess I see haggling as someone trying to rip me off, maybe that's the mental block.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Like @Bing , I too have lived, and traveled extensively. I agree with him. I find many times a question or two are enough to get a price I am looking for. They can always say no... and/or I can always walk away from a dealing!

    I figger if I don't ask, I will never know! :)

    I captured this one for a very fair price, and I approached my negotiations with a couple questions. DEAL!

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    OH! and @jb_depew ! I forgot I had this other Claudius As to toss on your pile!

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    RI Claudius Ae As 28mm Minerva S-C RIC 100
     
  18. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    At coin shows I often see people pay full sticker price for coins. Myself, I always ask if they can do better. If the answer is no, I walk away. If the answer is yes then the fun begins. Quite often the answer is yes. In some cases I saw people walk away after paying 20% more for the coins they bought than I paid for mine. This is also a good skill to have when it comes time to sell one's coins.
     
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  19. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Wonder if anyone would mind giving their opinion on this humble Claudius I just picked up at a very low price? The OP's coin is spectacular but certainly not something I could ever obtain - but I enjoyed viewing it and am very happy it is in the hands of someone who really appreciates it!!
    Sorry to drop the thread down to my level (haha)... but am I OK here? I am thankful for any input....

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  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    From the image I see no problem with the coin. It is worn, yes, but still a nice coin. There are many here who find worn coins quite attractive. It was used in commerce. Just imagine who might have used it and for what purposes. Claudius As's in this condition are not expensive, and, not knowing what you actually paid, at a "low cost" you did well imo.
     
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  21. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Thank you Bing.
     
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