Unpublished ?

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    It took me 2 years to clean this coin which was totally dark and unidentifiable. Now it's sure there's Emperor Caracalla on obverse. The issue is the reverse showing a plowing scene heading left and guided by a priest. I'd be glad if there's only one reference
    whatsoever that lists this coin. Otherwise, it's an unpublished coin. It weighs 8.86 g. Carac  O.jpg CaraPlow R.jpg
     
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  3. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Its a well known scene, there are many around of Augustus for instance, but usually the oxen are walking the other way.

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  4. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Well .. That's what I'm searching. The oxen heading left, on a coin struck under Caracalla.
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What makes you sure it's Caracalla? Can you read part of the legend? It's indistinct on the scanned image.
     
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    There is an object above the animals on the reverse. It looks somewhat like a vexillum. Adding that search term yielded a potential match from Judaea (Elagabalus):

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=142656
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    JUDAEA, Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem). Elagabalus. AD 218-222. Æ 25mm (9.76 g, 11h). Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Founder plowing left with two oxen; vexillum in background. Meshorer, Aelia 113; Kadman ; Rosenberger -; SNG ANS -.

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=270449
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    JUDAEA, Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem). Elagabalus. AD 218-222. Æ (23mm, 10.40 g, 6h). Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Founder plowing left with yoke of oxen; vexillum in background. Meshorer, Aelia 113a; Sofaer 97.

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    This is not a complete search by any means and this is just a possibility.
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..the reverse lQQks like he might be plowing with the infamous spyderous critter ><
     
  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This is a former photo by digital camera with Photoshop enhancements. I'll be posting more digital photos. This photo made me more likely tending towards
    Caracalla. There's also the letter S in exergue. We'll have fun guessing about the presumed unpublished coin. Ha..
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Looking forward to the additional pictures :)

    Yeah... I think you have it backwards. Assume the coin is published until it can be proven otherwise. Also, it isn't possible to declare a coin unpublished if the coin cannot be identified in the most basic ways. You have to have at least some of these things: readable (or partially readable) legends, identifiable portrait, identifiable reverse legend and markings, identifiable reverse devices. So far we have a reasonably good guess about the reverse scene but the other items are lacking. Hopefully your better images will shed light on a few more details.
     
  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This is what I could also do with the reverse. CaraclPh R.JPG
     
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  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Much better pics!
     
  13. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Cool coin and an interesting mystery.

    Looks like Hadrian?

    Any more letters visible?

    John
     
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  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    How about Maximus. I could detect the letter X.at nearly eleven on the obverse.
     
  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here's a new photo under direct sunshine. I tend towards Emperor Maximus Caesar. Capture.JPG
     
  16. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Looks like Herennius Etruscus to me.
     
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  17. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The obverse could start with (AYK) as allegoric for provincial. Then it might follow with Delta Epsilon C. That would be the first 3 letters of Herennius Etruscus' imperial name, which is Decius. What you think ? Have a look.. Heretr 6 001.jpg
     
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