Centered Flip Over Strike Lincoln cent value

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  1. CoinCollect#1

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  3. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    That is what is called a die clash. Prior to this coin being struck the dies came together without a planchet in between them causing damage to the dies. Each coin struck after the damage will appear to have the reverse design show on the obverse and vice versa. Save your money with a bid of over $20. it's already too high. I sold one a couple weeks ago for less than $5 and that was for a mint state example 1984 Lincoln.
     
  4. nickelman

    nickelman Coin Hoarder

    Die Clash - Not sure about cent prices but don't think it's worth the $20 asking bid.
     
  5. CoinCollect#1

    CoinCollect#1 New Member

    Nope, A clash is iincused, the seller says this is in RELIEF!

    Nope, have my book right here and it says that die clash errors are incused, the seller says this one is in relief or risen up from the coin, two different animals, not a clash. I own clashes in PCGS slabs, they are incused. There are centered multi struck coins, some of them flip, my book says this is rare and worth at least $700 unlike a clash...
     
  6. nickelman

    nickelman Coin Hoarder

    Bid $700 I'm sure you'll win. But I think the bid is already more than what it's worth IMHO.
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    See comments in your other posting.

    plus: I don't trust any auction where the bidders id's are kept private.
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I disagree over the title of flip over strike. I have seen a fair amount of overstrikes and own a fair bit of Russian overstruck coins but this unfortunately doesn't seem to be it. Usually in a sign of an overstrike, there is significant amount of details IN both the backfront and the design. The coin however only shows some "relief" design in the center of the coin. Furthermore in the reverse of the coin, the seller points to the hair outline and the ear. But notice where the ear and outline is at. The hair outline is at the RIGHT side of the coin, not LEFT.

    Therefore this is just a die clash, not overstrike as the seller mentioned.
     
  9. CoinCollect#1

    CoinCollect#1 New Member

    Thanks for the info

    Well thanks for the info, I have a bid of $70 and will send it to PCGS when I get it... I have sent coins back to that same seller with no problems and got a refund so I guess it will be ok:) Thanks for the info..
     
  10. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    Well in that case I suggest you bid at least $1000.
     
  11. CoinCollect#1

    CoinCollect#1 New Member

    Not asking for sarcastic remarks! Thanks anyways!
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Coin:
    Agreed, the designs would be incused .
    The areas between the designs, here the spaces between the columns in the memorial, would be raised, since the design would be incused, the spaces would be raised.
     
  13. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind


    I'm betting you'll win with a $70 bid. I say an error is worth what someone will pay for it NOT what some book says.

    Now having not heard a lot about this "rare" error I don't see it hitting 1955 Double Die status at any time.

    This may indeed be a rare error but apparently the demand is not too high.

    I agree with Treashunt about the "Bidders ID kept private" never understood that. I also have a problem with the seller's overuse of the word rare and even ultra rare. Geez, he even uses the word rare in an answer to a question.

    On the other hand if it's worth $70 to you good luck and enjoy it!
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Just save the eBay description for your listing if you ever want to sell it.
     
  15. CoinCollect#1

    CoinCollect#1 New Member

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  16. CoinCollect#1

    CoinCollect#1 New Member

    If I ever sell it (IF I win it) it would be in a PCGS slab, I dont buy to re-sale, I am a collector for fun and like very odd coins. I am posting a couple of pictures of MY finds! I like to search nice fresh mint bags since most of my own collection consisits of unc only with a few nicer EF to AU coins... I am going to post a few pictures here and maybe get some help on what to call some I plan to send to NGC or PCGS including a Washington First Day Cover with some kind of dramatic error on it:) I have to work today, but I hope you are on alot, you seem to know what you are talking about and I just discovered this forum. I hope it is ok to ask some questions here. Money is not really important to me, but nice coins are! Thanks for your help!
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Coin:
    Thanks for the comments, and please remember, many people are just trying to help out.
    Some comments may seen curt or less than nice, but most members are just trying to 'call 'em as they seem 'em'.
    Good luck with your collection, and I look forward to seeing your pieces.
     
  18. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    This is definately a die clash. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If i could get $20 for each of the 6 coins that I have that are the same as this one I would be happy, except that I don't believe in stealing other peoples money.

    Sending this coin to be slabbed will cost more than the coin will ever be worth.

    Good luck
    Richard
     
  19. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    Coin, I would like to apologize for the sarcastic remark I made this morning. I'm sorry. Please do post photos of the coins you have questions about.
     
  20. CoinCollect#1

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  21. StartingOut

    StartingOut Member

    Here's my own version of that coin. $700.-1200.? Wow - SOLD!!! :goofer:
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