PROVIDENTIA

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Providentia is the personification of foresight and is most often depicted under the form of a female, clothed in a matron’s gown, holding in her left hand a cornucopiae or the hasta pura, and in her right a short wand, with which she either touches or points to a globe. Sometimes she holds this globe in her right hand, at others it lies at her feet.

    This reverse type is intended to mark the power and foresight of the emperor -- i.e. that he is aware of the needs of the empire and its population and is taking the proper measures to meet them, such as ensuring the grain supply or peaceful succession on account the birth of imperial children.

    Faustina Sr AETERNITAS Providentia dupondius.jpg
    Faustina Senior, AD 138-141
    Roman orichalcum dupondius, 12.07 g, 26.6 mm, 12 h
    Rome, AD 141
    Obv: DIVA AVGVSTA FAVSTINA, veiled and draped bust, right
    Rev: AETERNITAS S C, Providentia standing left, holding globe and hasta pura
    Refs: RIC 1163ab; BMCRE 1459; RCV 4635.


    Gallienus PROVIDENTIA AVG antoninianus.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.45 g, 19.3 mm, 5 h
    Mediolanum, AD 260-268
    Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right
    Rev: PROVIDENTIA AVG, Providentia standing left and leaning on column, holding short wand and cornucopiae; globe at her feet
    Refs: Göbl 1086aa; Toffanin 146/1

    Postumus PROVIDENTIA AVG.jpg
    Postumus, AD 260-269
    Roman AR Antoninianus; 2.39 g, 19.4 mm, 12 h
    Cologne, AD 265-268
    Obv: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right
    Rev: PROVIDENTIA AVG, Providentia standing left, holding globe and hasta pura
    Refs: RIC 80; Cohen 295; DeWitte 247; RCV 10977; Hunter 75.

    Post your PROVIDENTIA coins!
     
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  3. randygeki

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  4. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Tacitus - PROVIDENTIA AVG
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    Probus - PROVIDENT AVG
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    Probus - PROVIDEN DEOR
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I hadn't come across the term "hasta pura" before, so thanks :)

    Here she is with that device, pointing to the globe at her feet.
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    Postumus
    CE 260-269
    antoninianus, 20 x 22 mm, 3.0 gm
    struck CE 263
    Obv: IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: PROVIDENTIA AVG, Providentia standing left, leaning on a column, holding a scepter in her right hand and a cornucopiae in her left; at her feet to left, globe
    Ref: RIC VII 81, Cologne [supposedly; I certainly don't know this for a fact]; AGK (corr.) 70. Cunetio -. Elmer 334. Gilljam -
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Well, the coin IS RIC 81:

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    RIC attributes it to Lugdunum. Sear (#10980) attributes it to Cologne. Who's right? I'd go with Sear, as it is based on updated information.
     
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  7. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Here is a coin with PROVIDENTIA but no Providentia:

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    Septimus Severus 207-208 AD 3.05g denarius 18mm. Rome.
    Obv: SEVERVS – PIVS AVG; Laureate head right
    Rev: PROVIDENTIA; Small head of Medusa facing, on aegis.
    Ref: RIC IV 286; BMCRE 357; RSC 591
    ex-CNG, e-auction 186, April 2008, lot 195

    Why an aegis instead of Providentia? The theory is that it refers to the foresight of the two Augusti, Septimius and Caracalla, in their preparation to invade Britain in the following year, 208.
     
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's a cool coin and an insightful interpretation of the meaning of the reverse type. It's certainly a better explanation than is to be found in Stevenson, Seth William, et al. A Dictionary of Roman Coins, Republican and Imperial. G. Bell and Sons, 1889, p. 660:

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cool write up and good explanations of the terms @Roman Collector . As I am reading, I usually try to look everything up for clarifications, but your LINKS are always very helpful.

    RI Lucius Verus 161-169 CE AR Denarius Providentia glob cornucopiae RIC 253.jpg
    RI Lucius Verus 161-169 CE AR Denarius Providentia globe cornucopiae RIC 253

    RI Tacitus 275-276 CE AE Ant Providentia.jpg
    RI Tacitus 275-276 CE AE Ant Providentia

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    RI Constantine I CE 306-337 Æ Follis 19mm 3.2g Siscia CE 326-7 AVG Laureate R - PROVIDENTIAE AVGG Camp gate 2 turrets no door star RIC 200
     
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  10. Jbruce

    Jbruce Well-Known Member

    Here's a PROVIDENTIAE I bought recently but quite confused by the RIC. Its not the same.

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    Constantius II, 22 May 337 - 3 November 361 A.D.
    Billon centenionalis, RIC VII Rome 290, LRBC I 519, SRCV V 17632, Hunter V 17 var. (4th officina).
    Rome mint, weight 3.04g, 19.7mm, as caesar, 326 A.D.; obverse FL IVL CONSTANTIVS NOB C, laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust left; reverse PROVIDENTIAE CAESS (to the foresight of the two princes), campgate with two turrets, star above, • in archway, R wreath T in exergue.


    RIC VII Rome 290 isn't right. I like the desert patina and wanted a camp gate since I don't own one.

    (The reverse is what's incorrect)
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure why you don't think RIC 290 isn't right. Here's the page:

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  12. Jbruce

    Jbruce Well-Known Member


    The reverse is what confuses me. The obverse is correct but the mintmark isn't the same including the dot in the archway.
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Apart from the dot in the archway, the mint mark is spot on. The star above the campgate is included in the reverse description of "as 264."

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  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    The following coin was struck in Serdica under Diocletian. Reverse has Providentia standing facing right towards Quies standing facing left and holding a branch and scepter. The coin seems to be formerly silvered . RIC VI - 15a , B.

    DiocProvid O  Ric-6 serdica.jpg DiocProquies  15 a -B.jpg
     
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  15. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Nice catch RC :D

    Hadrian Sestertius, Roma 134-38 AD Providentia standing

    Reference.
    var. RIC 772; C 1205; Strack 682 (var= no wand and resting on column)

    Obv. HADRIANVS - AVG COS III P P
    laureate head right.

    Rev. PROVIDENTIA AVG / SC
    Providentia, draped, standing left, holding hand over globe and vertical sceptre in left

    23.43 gr
    32 mm
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Learned a bit, here. Hasta pura and all that. Thanks.

    For the second time this weekend, I've had a look through the archived pictures of my first Roman collection from 2007-08, to see if I could match a certain reverse theme.

    You see, when I built that collection, I paid very little attention to reverse designs. It was all about the portrait first, name second, and if a coin had an interesting reverse, great, but if it didn't, that mattered little to me. I was mostly just checking imperial names off a list, though of course I was learning a lot.

    So I wasn't sure if I had a PROVIDENTIA or not.

    Scrolling down, I had pretty much concluded that no, there weren't any in my old collection, but lo and behold, then I saw this Tacitus:

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    Kind of interesting how I've recently been spurred to look back at coins I sold a decade ago, and examine things about them that I was paying little attention to when I bought them.
     
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  17. Jbruce

    Jbruce Well-Known Member

    You're right Roman Collector. I had to look it up on the Roman Coin Attribution Kit (MS Excel) on FAC. There's two of them and the one I have is the R wreath T. I was looking at Wildwinds.com and they only showed the R wreath Q mintmark.

    I have start looking past wildwinds for further incite. Thank you.
     
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