Damn... got a Salus in my beard again!

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  1. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    We're all aware that Gallienus had issues with unsightly neck beard creeping down from his chops... but here we see a significantly worse problem!

    Or maybe it's "Composition with Beard and Salus", artist unknown, circa 267 CE. Definitely ahead of its time.

    Screen Shot 2018-03-05 at 8.03.24 PM.jpg
    What it really is: My first flip-over double strike, Gallienus antoninianus, RIC 581 (Siscia). Show your flip-over double strikes and your Gallienus/Salus or Gallienus from the Siscia mint!
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Haha! Great! One of the best flip-over double strikes I've seen. A+
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Obviously you didn't research this coin very well, Sevvy. Tsk tsk. It's not a mint error...
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    Gallienus-SalusMuttonchops.jpg

    ;) :D

    Seriously though, what a fantastically dramatic coin!!
     
  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:!!!

    My bad... so that's not an eyes-to-heaven bust, it's an "OMG, how will I get rid of my side-saluses?!?" bust. He definitely looks eye-rollingly annoyed.
     
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Another wonderful addition to your cabinet of numismatic curiosities. Bravo! :)
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  8. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Don't you just love it when a happenstance error creates something that rises above the norm?

    Excellent coin SA!
     
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  9. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Great coin @Severus Alexander !
    I like coins that you have th think a bit to see what happened.
    This overstrike is easy yo see.
    PISO fods obv 3.JPG
    PISO fods rev.JPG

    I had to do some work to figure this one. It is a flip over double strike, but not much of the first strike can be seen. I cut pictures of the obverse and reverse to analyze it. You can see the horses front legs and Dioscuri spear tips on the obverse.
    5.24.16 006.JPG
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I think I see what that dude was going for....

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    Seriously, that's pretty dang cool!
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  12. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    That Piso is awesome!! (Side comment: big envelope? or just a tiny as? o_O) I can't really see what's going on with the Plutius, but I'll take your word for it!
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    OK, TIF, what can you do with Septimius Severus and Mars?
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    When it comes to flipovers my favorite is this Magnentius where the first strike was a brockage leaving one obverse, two raised reverses and one incuse reverse on one coin. I apologize to those who have seen it a hundred times before.
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Scholars attribute the modern "shoulder devil/angel" meme to this bust of Septimius Severus, from which your coin's design is derived:

    CT-SeptiumiusSeverus-MarsAndPax.jpg

    It is rumored that Tolstoy was so enamored of this bust that he almost named his most famous novel Mars and Pax.
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WAY COOL @Severus Alexander ! VERY nice example and a great first flipover doublestrike! Great detail on that Salus! Yours is an incredible example...

    This one is a hot mess of a flipover-double-strike:
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    RR AR Den Clodius Pulcher T Mallius 111-110 BCE ERROR Flipover Double-Strike Roma Triga Cr 299-1b S 176 O-R

    This one is just a double-strike:
    RR M Furius ERROR DOUBLE-STRIKE AR Den 119 BC 3.8g 20mm Janus Trophy Carnyx S 156 Cr 281-1.jpg
    RR M Furius ERROR DOUBLE-STRIKE AR Den 119 BC 3.8g 20mm Janus Trophy Carnyx S 156 Cr 281-1

    And this is an over-strike making it look like a Januform:
    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE S1211 Cr69-6.jpg
    RR Anon AE Sextans-Hieron II Overstrike 214-212 BCE S1211 Cr69-6
     
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  16. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    And I forgive you a hundred times! That is an über-awesome coin and we all love it. :) By contrast, I had never seen the Mars flipover before... a nice companion for my Gallienus for sure.

    Unsurprisingly, it looks like he is favouring Mars...:punch:

    @Alegandron: Thanks, Gandalf! I would love to see a higher-res image of that Clodius Pulcher/Mallius. Here's my non-messed-up version:
    Screen Shot 2018-03-07 at 2.49.30 PM.jpg
     
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