1926 Lincoln Cent grade input

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  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Hey there folks,
    Here's a wheat Cent from my son's collection he was looking to get some grade input on. Thanks!
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What is that above LI ?
     
  4. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure...
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It has the look of an MS-63 but there are a lot of rim hits. I'm going to call it 55 or 58.
     
  6. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    There are also a lot of nicks in the obverse field. If it were to get an MS grade the highest IMO would be 62. I can't tell from the photos whether it would be R or RB.
     
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  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's obviously circulated but there's no wear on it. Its condition is mint state. MS63.
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's probably a lighting artifact. My guess is it's a slider 58 to 62.
     
  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

  10. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the excellent feedback. My son will be thrilled with the notion that it is MS. I agree that it shows no wear but does have
    It's share of hits. The color is best represented by the first and third photos rather than the second and fourth.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Mark, teach your son this. What he's looking for is objective evidence of wear. That rim is damaged. It's "PMD" ("Post-Mint Damage"). That's slight, so it's not going to keep the coin from a grade. When it's a lot, it will do that. Supposing you smashed it with a hammer or drilled a hole in it. It's still no wear, still mint state, but probably won't get a grade for the damage.

    Teach him why he looks for wear. Why do we look for wear when we're collecting comic books? Or stamps? Or sports cards? Or notes? Or pocket watches? Or antique jewelry? It's because we value the state of preservation and want to know how close to that original the state of preservation is. There's the rationale for the grade.

    He learns just that, and nothing else, and he'll never be tricked. He'll know what he's got, no matter what anyone says. Everything else in this grading game is subjective opinion, influenced by marketing. That's it.
     
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  12. RickO

    RickO Active Member

    A lot of hits/dings.... not an MS coin... AU at best.....Cheers, RickO
     
  13. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    63 at my first gaze, but then I figured the contact marks and rim dings and thought 62.

    Really nice coin. Saw no wear on the hair above the ear, nor on the shoulder, lapel or bowtie, high points I use regularly to grade. And the reverse was clean too.

    The eye appeal says 63, but I use "evidence of wear" (EOW) and "evidence of circulation" (EOC) as criteria. If you throw out all subjective criteria, 58++ for EOC. And that's where Pickin and Grinnin gets his slider grade. I agree.

    I avoid "wishing" a grade on a coin when grading. I use technicals (wear, CMs, strike) first, to get me in the ballpark, then subjectives (luster, eye appeal) to fine tune.

    I ask myself "would others agree?", and if I would buy that coin at that grade. Then I'm confident with the grade and can argue its' merits.

    Spark
     
  14. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Just checked NumisMedia for FMV...MS62:

    26BN$12.00, 26RB/$15.60, and 26RD/$20.40.

    Spark
     
  15. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Cool, Spark. Thanks. I'll pass it along to my boy.
     
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  16. 05Wildcats

    05Wildcats Well-Known Member

    Very nice looking coin. 62 or 63.
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  18. GTeachman

    GTeachman New Member

    For years (>40) I have been concentrating on just filling all the slots of my coin folders, because I could never transfer the written descriptions of the various grades to cold hard coins. This thread has been very informative and has given me reason to stop lugging the penny and nickel bricks to and from the bank. Great discussion and very informative.

    Since I haven't spent a lot of time grading I don't have all the abbreviations down (not the letter/number grade abbreviations). In Spark's reply, there are several abbreviations I don't recognize: BN, RB, and RD. Could someone please explain these?

    Thanks,

    GT
     
  19. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Those would be
    BN - Brown
    RB - Red / Brown
    RD - red
    As indications of the hue of the copper
     
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  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Bn is brown. Rd is red. Guessing redish brown for other. Hope I'm right on last one
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Oops
     
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