Cool old holder with 1881-S Morgan just arrived today....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jtlee321, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    So I was cruising through eBay not long ago and came across this old Photo Cert holder with an 1881-S Morgan Dollar in it. I can't really find any info on the company other than @Conder101 briefly mentioning it in a list of known grading companies. I couldn't resist passing it up. I just wish that the previous owners over the last several decades had stored it properly, the plastic on the front has discolored pretty badly. The grading is far from accurate. LOL

    If anyone has anymore information on this holder, I would greatly appreciate it. :)

    Here is an image of how the front looks in hand.
    INLI-Front-Normal-White-Balance.jpg

    Here is the back. You can see the yellowing of the plastic on the edges.
    INLI-Back.jpg

    And here is an image of the front where I adjusted the white balance to compensate for the discoloration.
    INLI-Front-Corrected-White-Balance.jpg
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

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    Made ya look....
     
  4. ddddd

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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Cool holder. It looks closer to 63/64.
     
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  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I am guessing they graded the obv 64 and the rev 65 (which is how they should do it) but I read here they don't do it that way anymore. If anyone can expand on that I would like to read about it.
     
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  7. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    That's interesting!
     
  8. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That's right about where I would put it as well.
     
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Multiple grading companies used to do the split grading (one grade for the obverse and another for the reverse) in the 1980s. Anacs, NCI, INS were just a few that issued certificates with the grades listed separately for each side. Why it went away, I'm not fully sure. My guess is it involved market forces, the entrance of new TPGS (PCGS and NGC), and a desire to identify coins with a single number.
     
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    messydesk Well-Known Member

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  11. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    That's some interesting information. I'm not sure this holder will be a good contender for the process though. It is not quite sealed all the way around and I would be afraid of ruining the card and photos inside it.

    Also, yeah I bet the coin was white originally as well. The reverse of the Morgan is still bright white where it was not exposed to the UV light.
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    There was a seller on e bay awhile back whom had a mess of these like 8-10 not very good images ,and of course moon money. They didn't move and there were a vew descnt dates and mm's.
     
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  13. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I mostly bought this to use for the holder premium thread. We'll see how I did when I post it there and get guesses as to what I paid. :)
     
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