What causes toning ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JayF, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    Found this on a roll I got yesterday and I don't know much about toning on coins. Is this normal toning? Or was it left in a cup holder and soaked in coke or maybe some type of chemical. Whatever caused the toning seems to make the details on the devices sharper. I've seen a lot of rainbow toned coins here at CT but never quite figured out how it happens. Also, I think there's a die crack from the north rim and down between G and O on the obverse. I really want to get rid of the patina on the reverse to see if there's any details on the Lincoln statue but I know I'll probably mess up the coin if I try.

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe toning essentially amounts to oxidation.
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Environmental Damage.. Toning could be from heat (fire, flame, smoke), chemicals (soda, coffee, cleaning agents), human bodily secretions (sweat, urine, oily skin)...
    Your Cent does not look like natural toning but probably from one of the factors I mentioned IMHO :yack:
     
  5. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Flatulence
     
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  6. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Laundry detergent. Somebody didn't empty their pockets.
     
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Zinc cents tone before they leave the mint.
     
  8. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    ......almost anything and everything
     
  9. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    I guess that means toning is the only environmental damage / human caused damage that actually ups the value of the coin? It's the type of PMD that TPGs actually "grade" which seems weird unless they have a way to figure out whether it's oxidation or not.

    @Hommer I love mexican food and chili...I might be able to actually "design" coins.
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    What causes toning? Impure thoughts, just impure thoughts. This explains why we see more of it in recent years. :eek::rolleyes::Do_O

    And don't ask what causes "milk spots". You'll go become a monk. :D
     
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  11. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    The two main culprits are sulfur and chloride compounds from the air and even from your hands (i.e., sweat, moisture). Milk spots are sulfur based compounds that we see with silver and gold issues. Confirmed many times in the lab. I really do not believe they are solely production based or from rinsing operations as I have read. Could be? but when analyzed in the lab high sulfur readings appear in these spot areas. Could then be the final end product (i.e., sulfur compounds) if you want to argue production process based initially. Whatever ... but for the modern issue collectors its indeed important.

    John Lorenzo
    Numismatist
    United States
     
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  12. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    Thanks to all the folks who responded, I'm learning more and will read more about the different causes mentioned.

    John : I'm not qualified enough to argue your production process but will definitely read more about it.

    Thanks again all !
     
  13. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Try Coin Chemistry by Weimer. Simple ... but it proves my point.
     
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