31 S wheat cent please help...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Phoenix21, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Found this guy browsing around and I would like yall's opinons on it. I don't know what to really think of it. It is really priced affordably, but don't want to end up with a cleaned or something wrong with it example. All help will be appreciated, here are the pics:

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    Thanks!

    Phoenix :cool:
     
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  3. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    That looks like a really nice lincoln right there. I dont think its cleaned. It has a nice tone to it and has some sharp details. Id call it XF to AU. Would you care if I asked whats the asking price??? Im in the market for a 31s of similar grade myself.
     
  4. Jako lipo

    Jako lipo New Member

    i have no idea what is it grade but it doesnt look cleaned and that is one hell of a nice coin and i dont even like the lincoln cent design
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I think it's an AU.
    Problem is you can't tell if it's been cleaned from the image.
    You won't know until you get it in hand, and maybe not even then.

    I had 2 coins body bagged by NGC for being cleaned.
    If it had been abrasive cleaning I probably would have spotted it.
    But I'm going to have to take these to a pro and get him to show me the diagnostics.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Phoenix:
    High grade, probably AU-50.

    However, that said, (it seems that there is always a 'however') I do think that it has been cleaned and is retoning.

    why? It is just too pinky in color for me.

    But, I have been wrong before.
    (Just ask my wife).
     
  7. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    High end AU, but like TreasureHunt said, cleaned. Dipped long ago. With the AU price so close to MS prices, I would hold out unless it's really bargain priced, by that I mean $70 range or so.
     
  8. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    That's what I was thinking. The toning seemed fishy to me. It is graded by NCS too, another flag, but they do say it is artificially retoned. Or ot that affect. And no, it is not close to being a bargain, it's priced at $120. :D Tahnks guys! Found another place that sells them for $105 in AU. Sound fair? I think that's pretty good. DJP, pm me if you would liek the link to this coin. Thanks for the help guys!

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  9. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    nice lincoln and date, but i wouldn't pay that much for it.
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Bummer, because the 31-S is known to be a soft struck issue, this one is better than average in that aspect, but.......
     
  11. Rhubarb

    Rhubarb New Member

    Pheonix21


    Cleaned, It would grade in Au. $ value is around 85.00.

    Hope this help's.


    Rhubarb
     
  12. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Try Teletrade. In the last few auctions they have had some nice MS grade 1931-S cents.

    Speedy
     
  13. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    YEah, only problem is I am not over 18, and it says you have to be 18 to register, dang nabbit. :D Thanks though.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I would love to get an AU 1931-S for $85. Your price is way old or you have a source I would like to know about. Gray sheet lists $102 for a GOOD. Heritage just sold "1931-S 1C VF30 ANACS" for $103.50. Then there is the ones (plural) like pictured below. They are listed as cleaned and have sold for $140 to $225.
     

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  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Man, don't care if that guys cleaned, I think that's still an attractive coin. I'd pay some decent money for it probably. Is that yours rlm? Nice. I can pick up some AUs from a place for only a $105, what does the grey sheet list it at at that price?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    No. It is not mine. nanceye913 has sold several like it. Not quite as nice, this - 1931-S - just sold tonight for $120.50.

    The gray sheet lists AU at $125.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Mostly because I need the practice taking pictures, this is my 1931-S. Hoping itis 64 RB, but it is most likely 63.
     

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  18. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Let me clarify my statement.

    To buy a dipped and retoned AU at a super bargain price, thats about $70 like I said. That would probably sell for about $100-$120, the coin posted.

    Bid ranges from $105 G4 / $125 AU 50, so where does a dipped coin fall in?

    I just picked up an XF 31-S AND a VF 24-D for $125 shipped, now that you can't do everyday, Rlm, you saw that
    one..I didn't even take time to switch to my buy account on that one.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320182467203


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    Nancye913 could get upwards of $200 for a cleaned AU 31-S, I've seen it happen, over and over again.
    See ya got me going.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

    But, aside from that, compare strikes on the 2 coins pictured, Rlm is more typical of the issue, Phoenix's coin is exceptional on strike, so is the nancy coin

    It's hard to guess/figure what a cleaned coin is worth, it depends on the buyer and the time, there really is no telling, but with the amount of nice 31-S's out there, why buy a problem coin...unless you can really rip it, they don't resell good......that was my original point, I just didn't say it right. No harm or offense intended.
     
  19. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    That coin will NOT be that nice in hand.
     
  20. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Maybe your dad could join and bid for you.

    Speedy
     
  21. Rhubarb

    Rhubarb New Member

    Perhap's you should look at my point of view. I "Only" buy coin's that are not cleaned for a reason. My book's, complete book's are worth more to me "Uncleaned" than cleaned. Perhap's your objective is to buy and resell, that's the feedback I'm getting from the post's. You must understand that people collect coin's for different reason's, to resell, to keep, to wait for a rainy day to put them on Ebay.

    Your coin is cleaned. Value 85.00. Value decreases in my book when one is filling holes with what ever is out there.

    Rhubarb
     
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