1921 dollar VAM 3C2 MS64 clips?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by brinssig, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. brinssig

    brinssig Active Member

    There are small indentations in the rim on both sides of this 1921 dollar VAM3C2 in MS64 in front of the face of Liberty and up above between the D of the Word UNITED and the tip of the wing on the back. Is this damage or are these clips from another coin? They don't have the jagged appearance of being damaged.

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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    The "feature" at the eagle's wing I'm almost 100% positive is a die crack.
    That's accepted and depending on individual tastes, a positive.

    The indents are most likely damage of some sort.
     
  4. brinssig

    brinssig Active Member

    I contacted a rare coin specialist who said the rims on both sides were probably caused from being clipped from another coin while being minted. If the rims were damaged I would expect that the damaged areas would look shinier than the rest of the coins. They also look like they blend in too much with the rest of the coin to be damage.
    From the fourth star going up in front of the face there is also a small die crack going into the rim just above the defect. It starts from inside the star and goes into the denticles into the rim. I don't see this small die crack on the example they show on VAMWorld.
     
  5. brinssig

    brinssig Active Member

    Actually, I take that back. When I look at it it appears to be a narrow open space in the coin and not a die break which is raised-up. Perhaps it is lamination?
     
  6. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I think were looking at a strike thru of some sort
     
  7. brinssig

    brinssig Active Member

    Would a strike-though affect both sides of the rim?
     
  8. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Well, im not sure... i suppose its possible but i dont recall seeing such a thing. I was making my assertion based off of the reverse, now i see what you are talking about. Maybe a slightly clipped planchet, but i guess we need to call in the big gun.

    @messydesk
     
  9. brinssig

    brinssig Active Member

    To me on the back it looks like the break in the metal on the front may be going down into the top of where the metal is pushed up on the rim on the back but it is hard to tell without being able to look at the reeded side of the coin. It looks like the metal is being pushed over it on the back rim. The dimensions of the picture are a little off with the width being slightly narrower than the length but I don't think it is affecting the picture much
     
  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Looks like a minor clip to me. The funny bump on the reverse might be a bump on the planchet that didn't get struck out due to the clip. 1921 is the most common date for Morgan clips. They're not common, but it's probably one of your best chances to find one.
     
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