1972 &1982 penny need a lil help

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Kbo, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Kbo

    Kbo Member

    Could someone please tell me if any of these are doubled thank you. I'm trying to learn as much as possible all info is good thank y'all IMG_20180221_060102.jpg IMG_20180221_064710.jpg IMG_20180221_054948.jpg IMG_20180217_054117.jpg
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Can you please post photos of the ENTIRE coin and not just small portions of it?
     
  4. Dave363

    Dave363 Well-Known Member

  5. PROTOTYPE

    PROTOTYPE New Member

    Though I would like to have a whole picture's of your coins, but with pick up points and other tools, clearly these are not doubled die nor doubled struck. You need to pick up both Cherry Pickers guide at Books A Million or buy it on EBAY- Chuck
     
  6. Kbo

    Kbo Member

    OK sorry about that I'm new to this
     
  7. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Can't tell from those pictures.
    The 1972 cent has many examples of doubled dies that are minor and hard to discern. The one thing to watch for on the 1972 is that it also has a Doubled Master Die. This means that all the working dies created from this master will show doubling. Since there are many coins struck with this, there is no premium for those coins. This is true for the D and S mint mark coins also.
    Here is some information on the 1972 with examples. Read the very last listing for the Master Die.
    http://doubleddie.com/384301.html

    The 1982 is a small date. I don't think there are any DDO listings for a small date.
    Here is another place to look for pictures. http://varietyvista.com/
     
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  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    True, but it's not the first time you've been told.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    There are MANY (and I mean whole bunches) of "minor" 1972 doubled coins, but there is one grand-daddy that is so obvious it jumps up and grabs you by the throat. You obviously don't have that one.
     
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  11. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    What is it that triggered your thought that they may be doubled?...other than it is known that there was doubling of such cents.
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    A desire to apply excessive amounts of magnification, it would seem to me. Besides, “doubled” is the new black, or hadn’t you heard?
     
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  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The cherrypickers books are essentially a listing of the winners of popularity/value contest and is in no way the definitive reference suggested. While not bad books and they certainly can serve a purpose, the OP could learn much more by simply following the other suggestions made. As an added bonus, it's not going to cost him anything to do so.
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Oh no don't be sorry. Some of the best pictures of a date that I've seen in a long time. Please come back. Your question will be easy to answer and. A cointalks pleasure. Don't please Don't give up the ship. I can't tell a doubled die from a toes nail. But we can all learn examples from your pictures as the true pros reply. Believe it or not. Your helping all us members. IMO
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Is that all you got to add
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I'd have more to add if I could see the entire coin.
     
  18. Kbo

    Kbo Member

    I am going to take more pics and send I just read everything wexler has on doubled dies I understand a lil more now so much to know about coins
     
  19. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Congrats and keep up the studying. Read it again, study some more pictures, then read it again. I think I probably spend 6 months on his site and got a little more knowledge each time I went.
     
  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    One thing needs to be said: not everybody agrees that Wexler listed varieties are interesting or even "real" varieties. Wexler, and a few "true believers" here on CoinTalk are into the minutiae of varieties, but many collectors are not. Many "old school" collectors are only interested in major obvious varieties and since it is DEMAND that creates value, most minor "Wexlerian" varieties do not bring prices much.
     
  21. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Agree with the sentiment, but why is real in quotes? In the EAC world, variety is just a name for a specific die marriage. Every time a specific obverse and reverse die are used to mint a coin it's a variety, i.e. Sheldon, Newcomb, Cohen numbers.

    Doubled dies are certainly varieties as they have a specific obverse die that is easily identifiable. I think the confusion comes when people use variety, error, and notions of value together. Every coin ever minted is a variety, the value comes because some varieties have higher demand, or lower supply.
     
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