What are the chances?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by calishield, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    As it is been a while since any major error variety in a while in the cent arena, what are the chances that there will be a 2018 cent error where the P Mint Mark will be left on from 2017? I'd say we're due. Now if only it was copper also!
     
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  3. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The chances are somewhere between 0% and 100%
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Can't happen. Won't happen.
     
  5. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    So just for fun say they drop the mintage on 2018 cents (in theory). And I truly mean this in all fun. Whose to say what can happen, and once it gets put out there like any idea, that the chances don't increase exponentially? Things are rare because they weren't intended but did. Lower the mintage on cents and if perhaps there was a Whoops moment, suddenly people who weren't interested before suddenly are (frustrating for us collectors), but fun in that now more people are looking than before. After seeing the sale of the 1943-S copper, who knows? Dream a little dream...
     
  6. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    BTW, I am a cents fan but not the biggest Zincoln fan. Still a fan nonetheless...
     
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  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It cannot happen by accident. It can ONLY happen with intent. Mintmarks are no longer "added to" dies like they once were, at the end stage of the process, they are an integral element of the hub itself. Dream on. It cannot happen.

    Here's a challenge for the OP, since he brought it up: How does that happen, exactly?
     
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  8. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    I have studies the die making process and know with all the advances that it is as Steven Tyler said...Dream On. So it would have to be by intent. By all means it is improbable but not impossible
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I know how it could happen, but I want the OP to use his noodle and come up with an answer.

    Chris
     
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  10. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    The mint mark would have to be engraved into the working die for it to show up, which if they wanted to do some test dies with it and then tweak the design with the mark off, it could be done. Again, an act of pure intention
     
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  11. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    May I say thank you also to the people here who always help to deepen our knowledge and appreciation for this hobby. I wish everything in life could be like this! Something to strive for
     
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  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Agreed! It would have to be an illegal attempt by an unscrupulous employee to manufacture an altered coin. It would probably be more easily accomplished by using one of the old mintmark punches on a working die.

    Chris
     
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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not that any of this would be unprecedented. Can you say, “Homestead ATB quarter window treatments”?
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Or an unscrupulous person in a country with lack of copyright laws ,with a press make some for eBay and craigslist.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    ...or a Daniel Carr fantasy piece?
     
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  16. calishield

    calishield Well-Known Member

    Hilarious! It's an interesting age we live in now by far...
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    No, no, no... this hypothetical individual wouldn't be "unscrupulous" but simply an "artist" producing "art" and would therefore be perfectly acceptable. Additionally, and as you surely know, the "P" alone would quite reasonably constitute a "signature", at least as long as it was mentioned somewhere on an obscure website.

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave....
     
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  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    So you’re not taking Dan out to dinner, then? :hilarious:
     
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  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Steely Dan? Sure... it'd be an honor to dine with Mr. Fagan. ;)
     
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  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You hipsters with your ubercool cultural references, you slay me.
     
  21. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    And it would be even more funny if he struck an 'F' mint mark on the coin for Philadelphia, since that would be the phonetic equivalent of PH.
     
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