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Oh well. Guess you people ain't learning me today

 

Great page. I like when the big boy show up and learn us

 

EAC stands for Early American Coppers, a specialty group founded in the 60s which keeps track of the condition census of the top examples of each variety.

It grades differently than the Third Party Graders. It is usually much tougher, but makes allowances for detail loss due to buckling and die state deterioration. So an EAC-2 would probably grade as a 3 or 4 by a TPG.

 

I am aware of the die markers which distinguish the different dies used to strike these coins. The pairing of a specific obverse and specific reverse dies makes a variety.

For the S-95, there are several unique features found only on this die. Different ones are visible on each example. If you go back and read the thread, I have mentioned some of these markers.

 

Give us time. We'll be glad to learn ya Oh impatient Padawan Learner.

 

I just purchased this tonight.



It is properly labeled as a 1796 with a Reverse of 95. But it wasn't attributed to it's variety.

This particular coin has a nice reverse (my favorite side of most varieties) and can be attributed as Sheldon Reverse Q or Breen Reverse K. This is paired with two obverse dies on the S-99 and NC-4. The obverse is just good enough to show it as the more common S-99. The 9 and 6 re close.

But it's still R5 or R5-, depending who is reporting the rarity rating. This puts the known population around 60.

 

That's scary...

 

Can anybody tell me why I paid $85 for this dateless Draped Bust?

 

Completely unsubstantiated guess, but it looks like an 1807 and the 7 looks small: 1807/6 small 7?

 

It doesn’t look like it matches up with any 1807 die pair. I’ll look more into this one later - it’s a tough one.

Discovery piece?

 

Whatever the date. It doesn't look round.

 

I guess it could also be an 1803

 

You're on the right track. The owner insisted it was a 1798. It isn't.

 

1803 S-251 common variety at R-2 but Die Stage V which seems to be a rare die stage.

 

I see all the cracks, though some are light, of Die State V. But I also see a bold crack not mentioned running from the bottom of the top inner leaf on the left to just above the second inner leaf from the top on the right. Hopefully this is not another scratch. Also, there appears to be a CUD from the top left of U to the rim under the left stem.



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Comp from Heritage Archives for Die State V v

 

The die crack between UNITED and STATES doesn’t seem to be there, but I’m not too great at die states.

Awesome coin, and a worthy dateless pickup!

 

Click on the photo and enlarge it and I think you will see it. Lighting has a lot to do with how well it is seen.

 

Well. though not showing well on my V comp, the break in question is part of the III break and is better shown on this example of a III from Heritage:

 

I do see it, faintly.

I can't be sure if that is die chipping, or old raised corrosion.

Here is the Dan Holmes Stage V