A remarkable ancient imitation

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Valentinian, Feb 5, 2018.

  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I find late Roman AE interesting and ancient imitations interesting. You can confirm this by recalling I have web sites on them:

    On late Roman: http://augustuscoins.com/ed/ricix/
    On imitations: http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/

    I recently got this large AE1:
    ValentinianAE1imit.jpg
    Valentinian, 364-375.
    AE1. Large 28 mm and 10.36 grams.
    DN VALENTINI-ANVS PF AVG
    RESTITVTO[R] - [RE]IPVBLICAE
    Emperor standing, head right, holding standard and Victory on globe
    BSIRM
    Prototype: RIC IX Sirmium 3 "R3" "25 Feb. 364 - end 364" (i.e. From the beginning of the reign until the mint closed.)
    If it were an original Valentinian AE1 it would be very rare and desirable. However, its slightly crude lettering and style show it is an imitation. Oddly, it is a tiny bit larger in diameter and 2 grams heavier than most originals, which makes it quite impressive in hand. So, as an ancient imitation is is very rare and desirable. I'm excited!

    Show us any ancient imitations you have!
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love coins that weigh more then they should.

    Nice coin & find, Warren.
     
  4. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Interesting style!

    John
     
  5. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    :rolleyes: VALENTINIANVS? MAKE ROME GREAT AGAIN! ...o_O:smuggrin:
     
  6. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Cool, that could almost pass for an official coin. Here's my Constantine imitative- the blundered legend and crude style make its unofficial status obvious:
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    That’s really cool. Nice addition.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a good one. Most imitations seem to be smaller so an AE1 is quite special.
     
  9. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Puny mortals, bow down to the numismatic caterpillar of doom!!!

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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's cool. I found something similar in a bulk lot:

    Constantine barbarous imitation.jpg
    Barbarous imitation of Constantine Two Victories or perhaps GLORIA EXERCITVS billon centenionalis
    3.07 g, 18.0 mm, 11 h

    I know @Victor_Clark has a web page devoted to this sort of thing. Perhaps he'll be so kind as to drop in and comment about our two coins.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2018
  11. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is an official coin of the OP type, but from a different mint. ValentinianRESTITVTORREIPVBLICAESMHB800.jpg
    It is 27 mm, 1 mm smaller in diameter, and 9.78 grams, a bit lighter. Usually imitations are smaller than originals, but not the OP imitation. Remarkable!
    Note how the legend from 10:00 to 2:00 (TOR - REI) is complete on the original here and not on the imitation.
    Mintmark: SMHB
    RIC Heraclea 2

    I put it on my site about ancient imitations:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/
    at the page on imitations from Valentinian and later:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imitRICIX.html#AE1
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    Um. No. That is the Evil Jack-in-the-Box of Doom... :D

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    RR C Curiatius f Trigeminus 135 BCE Æ quadrans 18 mm 4.8g Rome Hd Hercules lionskin 3 plts - CCVR F ROMA prow Victory wreath 3 plts Cr 240-4a; Syd460b
     
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