Wait, whuuuut? You've been to "coin shows"? You know we're "marked men", right? We're supposed to be Internet "all in". Buy everything on eBay. Have no books, just bookMARKS on our web browser. Promote our specialty on the boards for "pump n' dump" purposes. Dude, you clearly didn't get the memo. I did get mine. I burned it in a ceremony.
I am guilty, Mr. Bellman! I love shows! I love meeting people and finding out what they collect and why. I like seeing everything from visitors trying to pass off their junk to dealers, to dealers lying about not knowing if their coins have been cleaned, to seeing beautiful undergrades, what is available raw, and even a nice dealer sharing their life story of how they were attracted to the hobby. It is also fun to see if you can finally find that elusive piece you need for your set. Buffalo has a show once a month hosted by the BNA. Sadly, very rarely is anything new from the dealers, and when there is, because I am not a dealer, all the dealers snatch up good stuff before the show starts. Very annoying for your average collector, but I still enjoy trying. The other thing is that I tend to be a buyer of more expensive coins, like ones around the $200-$1,000 range. Because there are so few people like me, their inventory of such items is scarce except for Morgans, which I do not collect. For example, I need a nice 1945 S ms66 or ms66+ full step war nickel. I also need a nice 1943 "doubled EYE". Haven't seen either in Buffalo or Erie, PA in over a year.
I hope so. I'm trying and learning so much here. And it is nice that people are polite when they disagree. It is what keeps me coming back and why I want to read up even more.
If possible, DO try to make it to Philly this August, then Pittsburgh in March 2019, and Chicago (grab the Capitol Limited and kick back) in August 2019.
As a fellow spoiled brat government worker, that is doable. I will be around. When the date is set, please tell me what show exactly. Also, another thing I notice at shows, is that I am usually the youngest person there...and I am 45. I am a school teacher, and I try to bring in errors, proofs, counterfeit pieces, BU sets, gold pieces, Antebellum pieces, and others to my students. I try to explain the time period, who designed it and why, who/what is on the coin amd why, why and how coins change during wartime...they do not care. All they care about is how much each is worth. I mean, I taught fascism last week. I told them why Mussolini used the Roman fasces on the Italian fascist flag, how Mussolini inspired Hitler, and then showed my class the reverse of the Mercury dime. Not a single one was intrigued. Are there younger people at other shows around the country? (and not just because a parent HAD to bring their kid to be able to go).
I like your comments in general about your experience with local shows. When I lived in Oklahoma I tried to go to some of the regular shows when I could. I found that the smaller shows attracted the same dealers and from year to year the inventory didn't change much at all which usually resulted in me going home empty handed. I also noticed a certain dealer passing cleaned SLQs as gem BU. His display probably had at least 100 coins and I wouldn't be surprised if all were dipped. I noticed a number of people buying coins from him. To be fair to the dealers, they bring selected coins from their inventory so if you need something that isn't there, ask. They may have one back home. However, if they do have one, expect to pay a premium for it. As an example, a local dealer has a nice slabbed MS65 1879 3CN that I'd be interested in. However, the price he wants is similar to recent online auction prices for MS66 examples. I can understand those like Kurt who don't like doing business on the internet. However, my experiences have shown that the internet opens up a market that otherwise would be unavailable. Of course, buyer beware.
Amtrak train between Washington and Chicago. It winds onto the Lake Erie rails in the wee hours, you get to have a nice breakfast, pull into Chicago, and off to grab a local train out of Union Station out to Rosemont.
I AM working with a number of other guys to make a ANA Show Train, starting with the P.A.N. guys early in the morning of August 12 or 13 (depending how early these guys want to be in Philly) at Pittsburgh, getting me and a bunch of other mid-staters at Harrisburg, the Red Rose guys at Lancaster, and finally to a big party in Philadelphia (where we can go see the Lombardi Trophy, teehee). The show officially opens August 14 and runs through the 17th.
I don't doubt what you type here for a MINUTE. It's just not my experience, here in the old Northeast. There is CONSTANT new (fresh to the market) material here, not just recycled junk. Now, are there a FEW old guys who live so frugally they could save from just their Social Security check who bring the same crap time after time? Sure there are. But they're by far the exception.
My son will be 23 and will be there the entire show. He will ALSO be judging a category or 3 in the competitive exhibits. His niche is he's an Eastern Europe specialist, of the communist era. His new element? His girlfriend will probably be joining us this year. Oh, one more thing: his girlfriend is a DEAD RINGER for Katy Perry. He done good.
Paranoid?...."Dave's Not Here!" Class of 1964. During the Crusade era, pilgrims trekked to the Holy Lands; along the way, vendors sold them pieces of wood from the Cross, called "relics", accompanied by written authentication by the local clergy, who got a cut of the sale; by some estimates the wood sold would make a nice forest. eBay is nothing new.
Check out an old movie called Marjoe which is about a huckster traveling the revival circuit and selling prayer cloths...when they run low, they just rip the ones they have in half.
My father in law was a Methodist Minister and traveled to the Holy Land and bought a small plaque with six coins on it purported to be from the period around Jesus, the coins were all counterfeit as you could see the casting lines on them, but they were sold as authentic. Let the buyer beware.