Just Found-Close Centered Double Strike

DoubleDie,

Mike is not talking specifically about 1984-P Cents! He is either talking about Lincoln Memorial Cents or all Lincoln Cents in general!


Frank

 

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By "common" I'm referring to this type of error relative to other types of errors. Clash marks are rather common, although examples this strong are a bit harder to find. Multiple die clashes constitute a significant percentage of all die clashes.

 

However, it would depend on the date and denomination. For instance, the different varieties of the 1960-D RPM's, would be more common than a strong die clash for a 1960-D.

But I do understand what you where saying. I know this is not rare, but with the die clash being strong, and the high grade of this coin, will make it rare. The grade alone should put it in a class of a few, let alone the error. I looked at this coin under a scope and couldn't find any roll rash or ticks that are common with Memorial Cents.

It's a candidate for PCGS submission.

 

It would not be economical, as the coin's value does not exceed the cost of slabbing.

 

The coin cost me nothing, the cost of sending to PCGS $18.00 + $30.00=$48.00. If it comes back MS67 the value is $50, if MS68 $140.00. With the error the premium will be more.

I have a few Memorials in PCGS slabs, and this coin grades higher. Plus, I will have the error authenticated.

I wouldn't send it if I thought I would go bust.

 

I believe that PCGS now charges $40 for errors.

 

Very nice coin! Beautiful. Nice error too. I wouldn't think it would be honestly worth it to be sent in to be slabbed, but if you are positive it will grade a 67 or 68, then I would say go for it. The error being that strong might add a nice premium too. How did you come across this coin if you don't mind me asking? Circulation? Dealer? Nice coin, and best of luck whatever you decide to do with it!

Phoenix

 

I'm surprised that no one pointed out the double clash before Mike did.

When the dies clash they my not transfer an image to either die, to just one die, or to both dies. In this case the dies have clashed twice with a slight movement of the dies between clashes and images were transferred to both dies each time.

I do believe that if you want it auhenticated as a mint error then Mike is right and the grading fee will be $40 so it would cost $70 to get this slabbed. The $50 value of a MS-67 is for a normal one. Believe it or not a MS-67 with this die clash will actually be worth LESS than that. Why? because the person who wants a MS-67 example of this coins does NOT want one with the die clashes, and an error collector is more interested in the error showing well than in the grade being a 67. He woud be perfectly happy with a 65 and usually is not willing to pay a big premium just to get what is a relatively common error in a MS-67 grade. Yes he might pay a small premium, but what does a 65 list for? My guess is that even if you could get this slabbed as a 67 you would be hard pressed to get more than about $20 to $30 for it. It's a white elephant.

 

Conder,

I believe I did in my first posting on this Thread! Also, if the doubled Columns on the Obverse of the coin are obtuse, then they are Counter Die Clashes and not Die Clashes which are incuse.

Frank

 

Yes you did, I missed it.

And obtuse is not the word you're looking for. You're looking for "in relief". Obtuse means dull, or lacking sharpness, rounded at the far end, slow.

 

Conder,

You are right! Thanks! I always thought that obtuse was the opposite of incuse.


Frank