So-called "centration dimples" annoy me.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen other similar examples now that I think of it. A mystery to be sure.
     
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  3. lehmansterms

    lehmansterms Many view intelligence as a hideous deformity

    Flans for silver coins were not treated to the same surfacing techniques which resulted in the so-called centration dimples on the Æ's. What you have here is a test punch - very common on Hellenistic-era silver as a proof that they were not silver-wrapped copper fourrèes. Mostly they seem to have been done with knives or chisels resulting in broad and disfiguring cleavages, so this smallish round punch hidden within Alexander/Hercules' ear is quite unobtrusive as test punches go.
     
  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's one of Geta with a dimple:

    AE 27mm, 10.7 grams, Nicopolis

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    Not so obvious on Nemesis on the reverse
     
  5. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    To me, centration dimples are utterly normal and expected. They only bother me when they obliterate someone's nose or land exactly centered in the crotch area of some God or Goddess. One coin I have has Asclepius' manhood completely obliterated. Ouch. I'm sure ancient peoples made jokes about such things.

    What did Diogenes say? " I have come to debase the coinage." People defaced coins even back then, but centration dimples were common.

    Looking deep inside dimples can help to authenticate a coin.
     
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  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Any speculation on why these occur on Egyptian coins under the Ptolemies but not under the Romans?

    Any speculation why these occur on coins from Greek mints under the Romans but not during the Hellenistic era?

    Why did both regions switch to the other style?
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Well, for pure unscholarly speculation...

    Maybe when Egypt "fell" to Roman Rule, Roman mint workers were brought in, supplanting the Egyptian mint workers? Maybe the Egyptian mint workers refused to divulge their techniques? Maybe the Egyptian flan making process was more time-consuming, making the Roman techniques superior in terms of production capacity per unit time?
     
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  8. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you Roman Collector that was very helpful and I learnt something new!
     
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