1991 D penny with errors?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by nhysandra, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. nhysandra

    nhysandra New Member

    I found this 1991 D penny, it has doubling or off set strike on rim, some slight doubling in date and in the G and O, but my big question is the inverted 2 on the right above the date? Andvis this a coin that I should have examined is it of value in your opinion?
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It is a Misaligned Die Strike. Common.
    Nothing major.
    Worth 1 Cent.

    The doubling is due to Die Deterioration. Nothing to do with a true Doubled Die.

    The inverted 2 is a plating issue or stain.
     
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  4. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    As mentioned above, a minor Mis-aligned obv. die,
    and numismatic pareidolia is the cause of the "2"

    (which is, as also mentioned, a stain/discoloration)
     
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  5. Emmett Brown

    Emmett Brown Member

    I have to add a correction. It may be a misaligned die if only the obverse is affected and not centered. Since there is no picture of the reverse, it could be an off-center strike. You cannot determine MAD by one side only. Both sides would have to be affected in corresponding directions for it to be off-center.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes you can.. If you look at the left side of the Cent you can see a false double rim. Also the has to be a some of the lettering missing to then be considered an Off Center.

    I have been collecting MAD coins for about 31 years now ;)

    You can also have both sides Misaligned though rare.
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    See the False Double Rim?
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  8. Emmett Brown

    Emmett Brown Member

    Yes, the "double rim" is caused by the obverse die being misaligned compared to the planchet. What does the reverse look like?

    Does it have a misalignment that corresponds in a planar fashion to the reverse example?

    Wait, there is no reverse comparison. You do need that to determine MAD vs. Off-Center.
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Ok.. that's your opinion. No further comments.

    Welcome to CoinTalk by the way
     
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  10. Emmett Brown

    Emmett Brown Member

    Tell me how an off-center struck coin can be determined from viewing only one side of a coin.
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Sorry.. I meant I have no further comments
     
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  12. Emmett Brown

    Emmett Brown Member

    So...you don't have any explanation. I am a New Member here, but that doesn't mean that I am a newb. If you have something to explain as to how you can tell MAD from Off-Center by viewing only one side of a coin, I would like to know and it would be beneficial for many.

    I bet you do have further comments.
     
  13. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I’m sure he’ll argue with Fred as well when the time comes.
    R.
     
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  14. Kurlylicious

    Kurlylicious New Member

    Hi, I would like to first introduce myself. I'm JustCallMeKurly and yes it's the hole thing. Lol or kurlylicious which ever suits your fancy. And let me start off by saying yes I am a noob and Not Embarrassed of it. So I have a lot of questions and there's only so much I can find in the internet. So I would be very grateful and much appreciated if I can get as many opinions on this as possible. I have found a penny with the roof floating and a nickel that has only a partial of the back it has some scratches but fairly very smooth and lastly I just found a 1991 D penny with the last 1 of the date a little higher and a slight tilt towards the left. Are any of these coins worth anything?
    Please and thank you.
     
  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Damaged. Took a hit.
    Worth? 1 Cent

    Also.. start your own separate unique thread.
    Pictures are always a must!
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    What Paddy said. This thread is over 2 years old. Welcome to CT.
     
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