Possible New Jersey colonial purchase need info

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  1. im looking at buying this New Jersey copper from a guy down the road. I can’t seem to find this exact variety in any of my books, and I got burned with a counterfeit buffalo a few weeks ago so I’m a little apprehensive. Can anyone give me an idea on value, and authenticity? @Paddy54 youhave anything on it? The thing throwing me off is the small line on the plow handle. I don’t see that on any photos I’ve seen. B74F919E-6180-49FF-A7E2-2955D94BB320.jpeg C0A39F92-AD1A-4890-9E42-F1585C1AFD91.jpeg
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Wish I could be of help coppers are not on file in the wheelhouse.
    And to be honest I am the last person to ask anything on coppers....sorry.
     
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  4. I found a variety with the line that is concerning me. It’s a die crack. I don’t think it is the same variety because the details are slightly different but I’m getting closer FEC45AC2-C259-4D9D-9033-5F53640B83B6.jpeg
     
  5. Possibly a later die state?
     
  6. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Well, it is either the second known 62 1/2-r or a copy of it. It has the looks of a cast copy but I am not willing to call it on a photo. Maybe member @Colonialjohn will take a look at it.
     
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  7. I paid 50 for a buffalo on eBay with edited pictures a few weeks back. It came in and is an obvious counterfeit. I didn’t bother returning it, because it will most likely just be put but for sale, so I ate the 50. I don’t want to do the same thing with this thing
     
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  8. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

  9. Is that a variety? I can’t find it
     
  10. montynj3417

    montynj3417 Active Member

    At a NJ metal detecting club meeting, a guy brought in a copper coin from around the same time he'd found in a city park, which was a Connecticut copper, re-struck to make it New Jersey. I think it was supposed to be the equivalent value to an English tuppence. Sorry so vague on the details.
    The area where I am was first settled by the Dutch in the 1600's, so guys do find a fair amount of old copper coins.
     
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  11. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    I will post it in a sec
     
  12. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    New Jersey coppers held their value better than some of the lightweight Connecticuts, and British Counterfeits. These lightweight coppers were sometimes overstruck with the NJ dies to help pass them.
     
  13. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    Hopefully you can read it
     

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  14. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    I might own 1 of them not sure
     
  15. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    Need to check the storage
     
  16. I ended up passing on it. The kid bought it at an antique store. The rim was perfectly square and round without even a ding anywhere on it. I told him to send it to a Anacs and see what happens. I wasn’t willing to gamble 100 for it
     
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  17. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    If genuine it would be a 6 figure coin. It looks like a cast to me though.
     
  18. That’s what I told him. Hopefully he sends it in, and if it’s real good for him. One. One more thing I can kick myself in the ass for down the road.
     
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