Nova Caesarea

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by CoinNewbie07, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. CoinNewbie07

    CoinNewbie07 New Member

    I have a Nova Caesarea coin from 1787. It has a shield on the back with E. Pluribus Unum. Any ideas on what it could be worth?
     
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy CoinNewbie - welcome to the Forum !!

    Your first concern would be to determine if the coin is genuine - there are many replicas out there. Post a pic if you can, then we can help you.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    CoinNewbie
    Welcome to the Forum !!
     
  6. CoinNewbie07

    CoinNewbie07 New Member

    Ok, I have some pics now. It doesn't look like the forgeries on that site, at least. So what do you all think?
     

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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Looks like a fake to me, but an in hand exam by someone familiar with the coins would be needed to be sure.
     
  9. CoinNewbie07

    CoinNewbie07 New Member

    could you give a reason as to why you think it's a fake? I only just inherited it and a bunch of other coins that were collected by my grandfather.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It looks like a cast copy and there are a great many known fakes for this coin. But all I have to go by is a picture and not a very good picture at that. As I said, the coin needs to be looked at, in person, by someone who knows these coins well to be sure of what you have. Until then, it is all just a guess.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    GDJMSP
    Not to disagree with your opinion, which I am sure is better than mine, but would the faker have used a planchet with a crack (see obverse)?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on this -

    " WARNING! - The coin illustrated above sold on Ebay (#3919986756) on July 12, 2004
    for $510.19. It is believed to be a counterfeit of recent manufacture. All of the coins
    illustrated below were struck using counterfeit dies manufactured in 2004. Some of the
    coins were overstruck on old copper coins from the 1700's, further adding to the deception! "


    yeah, I'd say they would.
     
  13. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i'd be darned. they destroy original 1700's coins to make fake ones... the loss is inmesurable!
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Wow!
    Where did you find this?
    Thanks for the info, and now I will avoid all of them.
    Thanks again, extraordinarily deceptive!
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Click on the link in post #2.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks.
    That was very interesting, and scary!
     
  17. CoinNewbie07

    CoinNewbie07 New Member

    yeah, but my coin looks NOTHING like any of these fakes...and this coin would have been acquired way prior to 2004 as my grandfather hasn't been collecting coins since the 1970s. so if it's a fake, it's not one of these.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They have been making counterfeits/fakes of this coin since the time it was actually in circulation.
     
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