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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I managed to finally get a good coin:happy:!

    AV Quarter Stater /Pella Mint/ struck 340BC 2.15g. 14mm. MS-55
    Kingdom of Macedon
    Philip II
    obv. Herakles wearing lions headress/ facing right
    rev. club/ bow/ lion head facing
    Only specimen known with that obv. die according to LeRider (Whever that is?)
    Hammer price $3300.00 (Just put me in the poorhouse) 3622419l.jpg
     
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A lovely obverse portrait. Congrats on a very nice coin.
     
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  4. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin!! The detail down to the lion head facing is amazing!! Well struck, nice centering!
     
  5. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Great coin and that denomination is much more rare than the full stater. Well done.
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Awesome. I like the little lion head.
     
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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Congrats--- a real beauty!!!
     
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  8. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Seems to be a book/catalog author; search for "Georges Le Rider". Oh, and have fun mowing even more lawns. ;) But that sure is a good looking piece ...

    Christian
     
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone for wonderfull feed back:happy:! I sure will be mowing a lot of lawns next season/ but with all the snow we are getting, maybe I will have to shovel some roofs. Since I have a phobia for heights, I stick to bungalows with flat roofs.
    No one wants to work here, so I can charge $800 @ roof/ takes 3 hrs for each one. $2400 a day ain't bad, right up there with what lawyers make;) Plus, you get a good workout:happy:!
    John
     
  10. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    When have you ever *not* posted an uber-cool coin here, panzerman? ;-)
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I really like that Quarter-Stater @panzerman . You pick'em well. I am a big fan of any fractionals as they usually are harder to get. I am also a BIG fan of Philip II. With all that he did to revolutionize and rebuild Makedon, his efforts enabled Alexander III to change history. However, without Philip's reforms and innovations, that part of History would never had happened.

    Here is my Philip II fractional Stater in a AR version:

    MACEDON Philip II 1-5th Stater Apollo head r - Horseman r trident below as S6691.JPG
    MACEDON Philip II 1/5th Stater Apollo head r - Horseman r trident below as S6691
    Ex: FSR
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I agree! Thats a neat coin:)!
    But...I always cheered for the Persians, wished Darius I had completed the conquest of Greece. However, I like Greek coins MUCH better then the Persian Darics, so probably better that Greece came out on top. Had I been the Persian King of Kings, I would have used my bowmen to have destroyed the Macedonian/ Spartans/ Athenians in battles/ much like the English did at Agincourt/ Crecy/ Poitiers vs the French during early phases of Hundred Years War.
     
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  13. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    It sits on LeHorse.

    Nice coin.
     
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  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I dunno, man, that's a pretty steep premium over melt. :eek:

    I'm not an ancients collector, and even I'm entranced...
     
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  15. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Outstanding coin! One that I looked at and was thinking about bidding, but that came to an abrupt end when the bidding took off :(
     
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  16. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    That coin cost more than my last car...of course, I'm a bottom feeder when it comes to vehicles. Either way, that is one really nice coin.
     
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    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    That is GOOD! Actually made me chuckle:)
     
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  19. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    That happened to me during Triton auction, I felt that I had the Philip III AV Stater in the bag....but then some very rich bidders in the room went ballistic.
    In the World section, same thing. Luckily, the New York Sale was more realistic, so I ended up getting my coin. Had that same coin been in Triton, probably would have went triple, what I paid.
     
  20. greekandromancoins

    greekandromancoins Well-Known Member

    Great addition!

    I try and avoid collecting gold as I consider it overpriced... I reckon people pay way in excess of the difference in bullion value for golds coins sometimes perhaps, just because they are gold. But admittedly, gold coins were circulated less and thus do appear in higher grades which probably adds to their overall attraction to some collectors.

    Having said that, a gold stater of Philip II is on my wish list and I am somewhat envious of your purchase above (if you cannot tell!).

    To answer your initial question, Le Rider, being short for Le monnayage ď 'argent et ďor de Philippe II frappé en Macédoine de 359 à 294 by Georges Le Rider, is the standard reference for the gold and silver coinage of Philip II. The following coin from my collection is a plate coin from Le Rider.


    Macedon_Philip_II_AR_Tetradrachm_Thunderbolt_LeRider234_PlateCoin_171217.jpg
     
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  21. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thank you! That is a magnificent piece. Great portrait of Philip/ reverse is something to behold. I heard that Philip used to compete in Olympic equestrian events.
    John

    PS: I know that high quality gold go for high prices, but when you compare the rarity of these gold coins to lets say US gold coinage/ then the ancient ones are reasonable. Look at the 1933 Double eagle (15 know and counting) 7 MILLION $.
    Many Roman aurei like the Saturninus which is unique, are no where near that figure.
     
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