hone your grading skills -- draped bust half dollar (v2)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Leadfoot, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Here is the newest addition to my type set. Some of you may recall that I posted a different example of this type a few weeks ago. Needless to say, I wasn't pleased with the coin and ended up returning it. Much to my surprise, I found a second example last week and the coin arrived today.

    So, please grade the following coin and, as you see fit, please also guess what PCGS graded the coin:

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    The pictures are pretty darn accurate, and if anything, the coin is a touch darker in-hand.

    As always, any comments on the coin -- what you like, what you don't like, why you graded it how you did -- are most appreciated.

    Have fun...Mike
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Mike:
    Very nice, probably VF.

    However, 1) is that a scratch or die crack or ? on the reverse from banner into the shield?
    and 2) is that PVC on the reverse left?
     
  4. asciibaron

    asciibaron /dev/work/null

    my grade - F

    -steve
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Treas, To answer your questions:

    1) Yes, I believe what you are seeing is an old scratch.
    2) I do not believe there is any PVC on the coin. What you are seeing is toning. I suspect this coin spent some time in an album and that's the origin of the toning/color. The color is even more pronounced when the light is reflected directly off the coin.
     
  6. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I would say a nice VF - closer to 20 than 30
     
  7. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Wow..I just loved that toning. I would say very fine for sure. VF25 is what I think. Great addition to your collection Mike and thanks for sharing!
     
  8. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Mike, i would say Fine 12. It is a nice coin, and i like the toning.
     
  9. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I'm gonna say VF20. Looks like an old cleaning that is retoning.

    Maybe F15, but I think PCGS will say VF20.
     
  10. asciibaron

    asciibaron /dev/work/null

    after looking at the ANA book, i stand firmly behind my F grade. on the obverse, there are little to no drapery lines visible, the and the hair detail and ear are worn smooth. over on the reverse, the arrow ends are worn to a blend, the bulk of the wing details are worn, and the legend is all but worn off.

    i'd be very surprised if PCGS wentabove F-12.

    -steve
     
  11. luc87

    luc87 Lmcoins

  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    o-k-a-y!

    He said PCGS, not SGS.
     
  13. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Nice coin !!!

    VF-25
     
  14. EdsCoin

    EdsCoin Senior Member

    Fine 12. I think that is what PCGS would give it too. Nice coin there Mike you going to kept this one?
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Yes, this is a keeper.
     
  16. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    XF-15, a beautiful un-messed-with coin. Thanks for posting pics. :)

    Ben
     
  17. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Leadfoot,

    Nice coin! Thanks for sharing!

    I am going to say that PCGS graded at F-15 due to the age, Series and condition of the Obverse! It is a shame that there is so much wear on the Eagle and E PLURIBUS UNUM.


    Frank
     
  18. ikes4ever

    ikes4ever Senior Member

    Frank and Ben, I agree looks like F-15 too me
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Using ANA standards - VG10. I suspect PCGS said VF20.
     
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    luc87 Lmcoins

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    zaneman Former Moderator

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