Crossover Attempt to NGC

I sent in this 1843-O Half that was in a PCGS XF45 slab because I like the NGC slabs over PCGS and thought with the amount of luster the coin had it was worthy of an AU50, but I wasn't about to crack it and send it in raw. So I sent it to NGC with a min of the same grade, and here's how she came back.




On top of that my 1870-S straight graded when the census was Details
Happy submission camper this time through. Both heading to cac

 

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Nice job on getting the upgrade!!

 

Winner winner chicken dinner

Let us know what CAC says. Good luck!

 

Well done

 

guessing pretty recent based on the cert number. I sent one in 3 months ago that starts 8461xxxx

 

Interesting. Comparing the wear to this PCGS AU50 that I recently obtained - comparing the two, yeah, it looks like it deserves the AU53 based on the hair and the feathers. Interesting. Would like to know when each of these were originally graded by PCGS.

 

They used to do it that way but they now just go sequentially. The holder has the gradient blue of newer holders as well.

Maybe the OP graded himself and knows the exact day that's the real only way to know for sure

 

I called them and they said the coin doesn't matter anymore it's sequential order no matter what.

And the gradient blue holders started in 2012 so that's the oldest this could have been graded disregarding the fact that it could have been reholdered. Prior to that they were blue but not with the color fading to white.

 

Interesting grade on that one. It looks cleaned to me.

 

The blue label with the white bottom started in 2012. Most likely 2012 or later for when it was graded but there is a small chance someone just did a remolded after that date.


https://www.pcgs.com/holders

 

Looks like it was August 2016. I have a bulk order with serial numbers starting with 818 that came back around then. They seem to restart the numbering a couple times a year, so they aren't monotonically increasing serial numbers.

 

Yea, ive noticed quite the # mistakes in PCGS holders as of late >>way too high/low grade. Questionable toning etc. etc.
What gives?


(Ducks and commando crawls out of room)

 

I've especially noticed it on original toned coins. The bright white ones seem to still get good grades.

 

If you’re making those conclusions from pictures that would be the issue trying to definitely grade from them

 

I don’t. Not a submission coin, bought it on eBay.

 

Was it the thick new slabs or the old thin one and did it have the dupton on the back?