1943P&D questions

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Hoffman87, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Hoffman87

    Hoffman87 New Member

    I have 2 steels that I was curious about. The 1943 has what I am guessing is a die break. Just looking for the correct term. And the 43D looks like a RPM but I can't find a listing. Could this be abrasion doubling or a rpm? 20171222_155801.jpg PicsArt_12-20-05.46.47.jpg
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Nice finds
    The 1st Cent looks to be a Retained Die Break
    The 2nd Cent must be a RPM (But I'm no RPM specialist ;))
     
  6. Hoffman87

    Hoffman87 New Member

    Hopefully someone can give insight who is. Again thanks!!!
     
  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    There is a rather significant RPM for the 43-D, but is in a different direction. If your coin has been "reprocessed" (re-plated), this often gives the appearance of doubling. If unsure, take a look at the edge.
     
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  8. Hoffman87

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    @BooksB4Coins what exactly am I looking for? All of the coins surface carry the same texture and smoothness. How else would I determine reprocessed?
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Is the edge steel or plated?

    Oftentimes one can easily tell from photos if a cent has been reprocessed, and I'm guessing yours has due both to the doubled appearance of the mintmark as well as the softer look of the lettering, but I just cannot trust my eyes as much as I used to and wouldn't want to lead you wrong.
     
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  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Unfortunately, it looks reprocessed to me. Particularly the first photo.
     
  13. Hoffman87

    Hoffman87 New Member

    Well that is a bummer but good to know.
     
  14. Kentucky

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    But exactly what is "normal"? Normal 1943 cents are made from zinc clad steel and from the sides you can sometimes see the difference between the zinc cladding and the steel core, kind of like seeing the copper on the edge of a clad dime. I'll see if I can find a picture. Yours looks quite homogeneous.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    edge.jpg 1943 cent edge.
     
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  16. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    One thing I haven’t seen any body mention is plated over rust pock marks. Your second coin appears to have this “tell” on Abe’s shoulder and it was a big rust spot to boot! You will find these on almost ALL reprocessed 1943 cents. I might take 40X magnification but their there! If they were perfect specimens they wouldn’t have reprocessed them now would they?
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