2 new ancients today, please give input on lg coin

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  1. ALAN DAVIS

    ALAN DAVIS Old Sopemaker

    Please tell me what the reverse represents on this one: a temple?
    14-37 AD
    AUGUSTUS O; DIVV AUGUSTVS PATIR
    ALTAR SC 10.8 GR
    29.5MM

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    The one below has a mans head and arm behind the horse...any input would be appreciated...
    166-84 BC
    CIBYRA DRACHMA
    2 GR
    15MM

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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    The reverse on the top one is probably a funeral enclosure or shrine. Below is a pic of what it was. This was Augustus one on the banks of the Tiber river. 1085.jpg
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Neat coins. The bronze is Divus Augustus, "Divus" meaning "god", in other words meaning they had deified him. This is a clue that it is a posthumous issue, in this case struck under Tiberius if I have the attribution right. It does look like a temple but is described as a large altar.

    From Wildwinds:

    "Sear Roman Coins and their Values (RCV 2000 Edition) Number 1789

    [Click here for the Sear 1789 page with thumbnail images.]

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    Ref Divus Augustus AE As, RIC 81 [tib], Cohen 228 [aug], BMC 146
    Divus Augustus Æ As. Struck under Tiberius, circa 31-37 AD. DIVVS AVGVSTVS PATER, radiate head left / S-C either side of large altar, PROVIDENT in ex. Cohen 228."
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ah, there you go. The photo that @Ancient Aussie posted helps.

    As to the other, it appears to be Roman Republican, but I'll let one of the more proficient folks attribute that one for you.
     
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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Here is one from Nero, if you look closely you will see the decorations in the front panel. 2015-01-07 01.07.50-21.jpg
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Here is my example of the Augustus "Provident".

    Ex. Guy Clark

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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    What's it say under the altar on that one?

    Edit: never mind. Wikipedia answered that for me.

    "ARA PACIS", huh? Neat. I was unfamiliar with that legend, and the lack of spacing between words threw me off.
     
  10. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    The Greek piece seems a bit small and light for a full drachma. It may be a half drachma piece or a tri hemi-obol.
     
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow, I totally overlooked that being Greek. The lettering should've clued me in, even if I was only looking at the pictures and not (duh) reading the description. Looked like a Republican denarius to me, in my too-hasty glance.
     
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  12. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    The Ara Pacis really wasn’t funereal—more a tribute to Augustus for ending the century of bloodshed prior to Actium. Near the Ara Pacis is Augustus’s mausoleum, which may be the structure that the reverse type alludes to.
     
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  13. Aunduril

    Aunduril Well-Known Member

    Very nice thanks for sharing!
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I like your avatar @aundurii... I enjoy Carthage coinage.

    Carthage Zeugitania Æ17 6.1g 350-320 BCE Palm Tree Horse Head SNG Cop 102.JPG
    Carthage Zeugitania Æ17 6.1g 350-320 BCE Palm Tree Horse Head SNG Cop 102

    and @ALAN DAVIS , nice DIVUS! I do not know your AR Drachm... especially with the "Flying Head" chasing the Horseman! :)

    I think I have one of your AE DIVUS...

    RI Augustus DIVUS  under Tiberius 22-23 CE Dupondius Radiate Alter.jpg
    RI Augustus DIVUS under Tiberius 22-23 CE Dupondius Radiate Alter
     
  15. Aunduril

    Aunduril Well-Known Member

    Thanks, it's one of two current ancients I have.
     
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