will pcgs or ngc grade this morgan?

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  1. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    There are scratches on them, I have seen some with scratches that have been graded, don't know if they will grade this one. Any thoughts?
     

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  3. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Its been cleaned =(. Submit it to ANACS.
     
  4. ikes4ever

    ikes4ever Senior Member

    yep its been cleaned
     
  5. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    I agree it have been cleaned, how did the scratches occur? What kind of cleaning causes scratches? Tissue or cleaner?

    It have been graded by ANACS, but ANACS label doesn't say it's cleaned, under higher magnification, there are lots of scratches. I can post picture with greater detail of scratches
     
  6. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    The cleaner didn't cause the scratches. It was circulated then cleaned. The scratches were aquired in circulation.
     
  7. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Could you post a pic of the whole coin and slab?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I too would like to see a picture of the slab as I have some concerns about that coin.

    But to answer your question, I doubt that NGC or PCGS would slab it, but because of its rarity they just might make an exception.
     
  9. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    Here are photos of the slab...[​IMG]
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I must say that I am really surprised that that coin was not net graded by ANACS. It has obviously been harhsly cleaned and generally just beat half to death.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I was contacted yesterday by an employee of Heritage regarding this coin - 1893-S. But since it would be considered to be self-promotion for a Heritage employee to post here on the subject, I am doing it for him.

    Also, to the original poster ML94539, this message is for you and your benefit.

    " - there is a link to one of our auctions and the buyer asks if the coin will cross to NGC/PCGS."

    " I can guarantee that our internal staff of graders didn't think so. Basically their job is to find the coins that will upgrade or cross, so that we don't leave any money on the table (good for us and our consignors). This coin sold for 8600 and if slabbed by PCGS or NGC it would have sold for 11-12k. That is a big enough jump that we would have tried to cross it if possible. The fact that it isn't in a PCGS/NGC holder means it either didn't cross or crossover wasn't attempted (because our graders think it would have been wasted money)."

    ".....I just don't want him to crack it out of that slab as he would be giving money away if he did. I don't think he overpayed all that much, but if he cracks it out he may have to invest a fair bit of money trying to get it back into a holder."


    Now, ML94539 - I hope you take this message to heart. You paid a good deal of money for this coin that is already slabbed. And I completely agree that it would be a huge mistake and total waste of money if you were to try and have this coin re-graded by NGC or PCGS. I myself am 99.9% certain that neither of them will grade this coin. And you have already heard the opinion of the folks at Heritage.

    So it is your decision to make, but that is the best and most honest advice I can give you.
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And your point is ?
     
  14. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    he/she could still try to cross it to pcgs/ngc in slab [without cracking it; but, lessens the chance of crossing while lowering your risk if it were liberated] and hope to cross at 45 or lower. due to the ''status'' as a rarity, they may try to cram it in to one of their holders. if it does get in to pcgs/ngc i would flip it back on heritage during one of their signature auctions and take that money and buy a nice vf-xf that hasn't been boinked with.
     
  15. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    LOL

    BOINKED !

    I never heard of a coin being boinked.
    :D

    Thanks for the laugh !
    ;)
     
  16. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Phew, that's an ugly coin. Very surprised its not in a net holder.
     
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