1909 Proof LWC???

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mrjason71, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Here's a 1910 with matte-like fields:

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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    LWC = Lincoln Wheat Cent
     
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  4. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    Ah yes I was wondering if maybe they used matte dies on some business strikes...that would also make sense but would benefit me personally much less...the dream has again evaporated (although I am definitely taking the loupe to those scratches tonight)

    ;)

    Thanks guys!
     
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  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

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  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What throws a lot of people are the high grade coins with the textured fields. The Lincoln cent was not designed to have flat smooth fields, they were supposed to have that textured effect. Same for the Buffalo nickels.
     
  7. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    Just took a look through my loupe and the diagnostics aren't there :(

    I must have a third variety...

    I'm talking discovery coin :)

    Also checked out this nice VDB I have and it has proof-like rims...No matte'ing though. The thing is like the depth of two cents together almost. I think they were all over the place in 1909 ;)

    Thanks again for the expertise guys.
     
  8. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    I'll just stick this here...don't think it deserves its own thread:

    I was looking at PCGS price guide on iPhone app and was wondering two things:

    1) Each "box" (which contains price for specific date, grade, and color) has two prices. Is this like a range? Lowest and highest price? Or bid/ask? Or something else?

    2) I have only been on this guide a couple times so maybe this is a common occurrence but for the VDB in MS-63 they have a higher price listed for RB than RD. What gives? I know these things are just taking in data from some feed(s) but I can't understand how that could be the case. This guide has something to do with auction prices I believe, right? Maybe it's an anomoly? A couple people happened to pay more for RBs lately?

    Just struck me as weird...
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I see the same price $48 for each of them.
     
  10. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

  11. robec

    robec Junior Member

    The bottom number is the + grade price.
     
  12. robec

    robec Junior Member

    This is from the iPhone CoinFacts app showing BN MS VDB. Format is a little different but the prices match.

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  13. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    Ah + grade!

    Thank you!
     
  14. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    What's the RB and RD price?
     
  15. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    I'm saying that they have RB higher priced than RD. For 09-VDB MS-63.
     
  16. robec

    robec Junior Member

    CoinFacts puts them on separate pages unlike the price guide app.
    The price is the same for both in the CoinFacts app.

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  17. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    Hmmm. thats weird. different prices on different devices...or different PCGS sources?
     
  18. robec

    robec Junior Member

    They probably haven't gotten around to updating both apps yet. I've seen this same RB priced higher than RD on another date a few weeks ago in the regular price guide. It has to be some sort of input error.........they do happen.
     
  19. robec

    robec Junior Member

    This was from early November. I took a screen shot of it then.......surprised I still had it. Instead of showing an RB priced higher than RD it shows a BN priced higher than an RB in MS66 grade.

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  20. mrjason71

    mrjason71 Active Member

    Ah ok so this is just an error...I was thinking maybe it was valid and someone could justify with auction prices or somethjng like that...a little scary to have errors...I don't use this as gospel but I'll definitely take a peak if considering buying something out of my comfort zone. Actually I'm really glad that there's no justification other than error to justify RB being more valuable than RD lol...

    Thanks Robec!
     
  21. robec

    robec Junior Member

    It won't actually be in the price guide, but many times a BN may out price an RB or even a RD in a like grade. Grade is only one aspect of pricing. Eye appeal can add multiples of a price guide figure.
     
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