Underweight piece of eight

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by wcoins, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    IMG_4472.JPG IMG_4474.JPG This weighs 21 grams...I think it's fake but would like yo hear other opinions as well. Thank you.
     
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  3. Ruslatin

    Ruslatin Member

    Maybe fake, or just heavily corroded from salt water exposure. Many of these are sea salvaged and the silver reacts with the salt, unlike salvaged gold coins.
     
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  4. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    Looks interesting, maybe someone tried to fake a sea salvage. The rimming seems strong going into the fields on the obverse around HISPAN . ET IND which looks very bad. Can we get a clearer picture of the reverse?
     
  5. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    I know, but it's lost way too much weight. And look at those letters. Something's not right.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Quite agree........
     
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    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  8. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    Alright looking over it again, I would say fake. The lettering is too thin and the ET in HISPAN . ET is a give away.

    image of a genuine from University Of Notre Dame's collection
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  9. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    also flower pedals looks fishy to me too
     
  10. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

  11. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    See this is hard, the thin letter is most likely from sea salvage from looking at these images because this def looks like a sea salvage. grrr
     
  12. Ruslatin

    Ruslatin Member

    Whether fake or corroded, I hope you didn't pay more than melt for it.
     
  13. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

    if this is a sea salvage and the coin is from 174?, there was a total of 7 shipwrecks spreading from the Bahamas to the Netherlands so I don't think your gonna find the shipwreck it came from.
     
  14. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Looks like this one sold on eBay that seems like a replica IMG_4479.PNG
     
  15. Ruslatin

    Ruslatin Member

    It looks like it might be 1740 to me. That doesn't necessarily mean it went down that year.
     
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  17. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    It has the look of a sea salvaged coin, but at 21 grams, that much corrosion would render it basically a metal slug without much (if any) readable details. It's just a modern novelty replica.
     
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  18. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    Such items, even closer to normal weight, are impossible to authenticate due to the extensive surface damage. If it doesn't come with a photo certificate or isn't encapsulated by a reputable TPG, it will always be suspect (if not by you, then by anyone you try to sell it to).
     
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