It shouldn't weight any more than it's normal weight. A CUD is not extra metal, it's just that part of the Blank Planchet that was affected by the Die Break (missing piece on the Die)
I find it a little questionable. The back side in the area of the "cud" appears damaged not just weak from the lack of striking pressure caused by the cud.
The surfaces of the coin are a bit 'environmentally damaged', but the coin is genuine. I see what you're talking about, but that weak area opposite the cud is just part of the surface problems, imo.
Looks like odd metal flow to me. Either way, where the cud meets the corner of the edge, it's flush even with the rest of the coin, so not something added sitting on top. Edit: I should have apologized in the OP for iphone photos, which are not great.
You're absolutely correct about the cud not changing the weight of the coin, but I'd still like to know the weight. if I'm not mistaken that's part of the examination process to confirm a cud. All I'm saying it's a nice CUD I just like to know what it ways. USMC60
Thank you very much I really appreciate it. It is pretty close to the information I acquired on the coin. 1862 Belgian 5 centimes Weight (gr) 2.95 Diameter (mm) 19.5 1862 14.149.000 - - $ 2.43 Again thank you USMC60
Hoi usmc, Is it possibel that on the right side from the lion there is lead solder? ( the coin coult be used as a pendent? ) It is on top of the tekst ( force ) That coult explain the weight difference. sky92880
I by no means am an expert and as far as I know the weight is within the tolerances maybe on the high-end, I'm not sure what the tolerances is for this particular coin. But anything is possible. usmc60
I know very little of foreign coins, but the reverse of the coin does not look damaged to me. In fact, it looks much as I would expect for a cud. Cuds of appreciable size like the one pictured will often appear damaged on the opposite side because the planchet metal flows along the path of least resistance when struck by the dies. Absent the missing piece of the obverse die, most of the metal that ordinarily would completely fill the letters in the reverse periphery will instead barely dip into those characters in the die, if at all, leaving them poorly defined or even indistinct in the area opposite the cud. The depth of the lost cud determines the extent to which material is diverted from its intended destination on the opposite side. A deep cud will obliterate all detail opposite the cud, and a shallow cud will not.
No.. Because it is a CUD and nothing else. In my opinion there is no weight difference when a CUD is formed If there is a weight difference It's only because all coins have a +/- variance in weight.
PM98 is correct, of course. A coin with a 'cud' die break weighs the same as a normal coin - there is no extra metal, it's the same metal from the planchet being 'sucked up' into the area of the broken die; that's why there is weakness on the opposite side of the coin - the metal flows into the broken die - the path of least resistance. Any weight difference is due to planchet tolerance difference, or something that happend to the coin after it circulated.
Agreed and I know that, but on this coin is is not just a matter of weak or indistinct, there appears to be, for lack of a better word, "smearing" going on with the lettering and the surfaces.