Help needed: appraisal of 50 Reales Philip IV 1635

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Lourdes, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    My mother has this silver coin and wishes to sell it but, although we know it's a rare and valuable coin, we have no idea of what price should be asked. So I'd be very grateful if anybody could give me an estimation of its value

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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3t0l1jp59dbv40/FullSizeRender_1.jpg?dl=0

    She'd also like to know the possible asking price of this 1788 silver medal of Charles III of Spain:

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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3685xra961dr3iv/FullSizeRender_2.jpg?dl=0

    Thank you!

    ps I've posted the links because adding an image doesn't seem to work for me...
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Nice pieces. I know nothing about the Charles III medal, but do have some inkling about those 50-reales pieces indeed being rare and/or valuable. I would strongly recommend sending that one to NGC for certification, to protect both parties. I see no red flags personally, but you'll want an expert TPG opinion on a coin of this caliber, with Chinese counterfeits getting so dangerously deceptive in recent years.
     
  4. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    Thank you, that was fast!

    The problem is that I'm from Spain and sending the coins to NGC would be quite difficult as well as expensive (what with customs and insurance and so on)
     
  5. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    Forgot to mention: the coins has been in my family for at least 4 generations, so no chance of they being Chinese counterfeit ;)
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    PCGS Europe in Paris, then, maybe? It will be worth the effort and expense to have it certified, I think, because that will vastly expand the market for it and thereby make it potentially much more valuable.

    I suppose they will need to put in an oversized holder. I've never seen one in person, but I gather these 50R pieces are great huge things, yes?
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Oh, and that's good news anout the family provenance, particularly if there is any kind of documentation.

    Congratulations on having an awesome coin.
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Alternately I suppose you could consign it to a reputable auction firm rather than submit it to a third-party grading company. That would also boost buyer confidence.
     
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  9. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    Oh, yes, they're huge.. and heavy!

    Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look at PCGS Europe. It might be a good excuse to visit Paris again :D
     
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  10. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I would say that if sending them for grading is prohibitive for whatever reason, a good auction firm should be a choice. I would imagine they are located or look for items in many places.
     
  11. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    Yes, that's another good option, thanks!

    But I think we'll try with PCGS Europe
     
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  12. Lourdes

    Lourdes Junior Member

    Thank you!
     
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