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  1. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    I am guessing this is a 1959 because the reverse has no wheat....Just wondering
    what happened to the nine?? S20171130_0004.jpg S20171130_0003.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Looks like a Strike Through on the date. That's why the 9 cannot be seen.
    And yes it has to be a 9.. First year of memorial Cent.
     
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  4. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks Paddyman! So I can call this an error coin?
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm more inclined to GUESS "intentionally altered".
     
  6. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    You think so Kurt? If you look at it real close, it looks like there are
    shapes / numbers where the 9 should be...??....
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yeah, I see that, but the bright shiny spot below where the 9 should be just bugs me a lot. The lack of an ability to "rock and rotate" is what causes me to emphasize the word "guess". I'm really becoming disenchanted with numismatics by photo.

    My new place is a story of four "museums". One for family history, one for computer gear history, one for photo gear, and one for coins. And while all have tenuous connections to one another, I've never been happy with this particular combination.
     
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  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Could be a strike through but a well rounded punch could have also done this. A fool and his tools will soon visit any one of us at any given time.
     
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  9. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks Kurt.....Ya, your right Tommy....
     
  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    A punch would of created an raised bump from a dent on the Reverse side.. in my opinion :watching:
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes, yes, if done ham-fistedly. But if someone used this piece to hone his "craft", well... this might have been an especially good effort. Does not the shiny spot near the rim below the date bother you?
     
  12. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    the shiny spot is due to the angle of reflection of the light, much like the shiny spot on Abe's neck. To me this looks like a struck through error, interesting but not much added value
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I must dissent. There are changes in the angles of the metal in Abe's neck, but the field near the rim is supposed to be planar. Why just a tiny spot with nothing anywhere else near it? I think you're wrong.
     
  14. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    I’m looking at a shinny spot with an area above with what looks like mottling and a surface that doesn’t match the surrounding area. Could be strike thru or could be the work of Dr. Whizzer but the pictures are inconclusive and as V. Kurt Bellman just stated
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I always thought that a "strikethrough" and "missing a letter or number as the result of a grease-filled die" are two different things.

    Chris
     
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  16. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Strikethrough grease and grease filled die present themselves after striking the same way I do believe. ( I Think it’s the same thing just different way to describe the same thing )
     
  17. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    You want to re image that for us again, more detail is needed. Higher resolution and magnification.
    Also more lights and different light levels. I’ll look again if ya want. It does look like a grease strike thru to me but..... can’t tell
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    What about "struck through wire" or "struck through fabric"? Are these strikethroughs the same as a grease-filled die?

    Chris
     
  19. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    No the two thread striketroughs I have look like you would think an imprint of the tread into the surface. From what I’ve experienced grease strikethroughs tend to wipe out the features below leaving devices and lettering from smooth flat to almost as intended. Some are often mistaken for broad strikes I’ve read.
     
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