Question about cleaned coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hypr277, Nov 21, 2017.

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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I like them for the price. Cleaned coins are most objectionable when they have parallel scrub lines where some abrasive or brush was used with too much force, or when there are many small hairlines in the fields area which should be smooth or sometimes weathered.
     
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  3. brandon spiegel

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    I bought an 1890 cc morgan for, I think $90 and its in a worse grade, I am happy with the coin though!
     
    brandon spiegel, Nov 21, 2017
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  4. Hypr277

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    I'm not going to but you know how acetone cleans silver supposedly? What safely cleans copper?
     
    Hypr277, Nov 21, 2017
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Uh...these aren't copper. :) Actually copper is really hard to do much of anything with. Water is safe, xylene is safe and some people think acetone is safe. Once you get past these, you run the risk of turning the coins PINK!
     
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  6. Hypr277

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    Hahahaha I know those are silver! But I was wondering about copper. Do you think acetone is safe? Have u ever cleaned a coin?
     
    Hypr277, Nov 21, 2017
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  7. Kentucky

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    Too many, and sometimes with REALLY bad results. For copper I still haven't found anything I would recommend to anyone. At the most, soak in water, rinse in hot running water and brush with a toothbrush if you really have to (not for uncirculated and proof coins - obviously).
     
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  8. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    I should acetone these morgans and put in airtites regardless of quality wouldn't you think? Or put them in airtites as is? Would you suggest all the silver coins I have using acetone? I've got tons that I've inherited lol idk if they are valuable but there's tons of them .
     
    Hypr277, Nov 22, 2017
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    For what it's worth, I can't see anything that makes me thing any of those 3 coins have been harshly cleaned. That does not mean they have not been, it just means that based on the pics provided - I can't see it if they have been.

    No.

    Yes, for 2 of them. The '78 is fine where it is because it is already in a hard plastic case.

    No. I say that because there is a very short list of stuff that acetone will remove from coins - PVC residue, tape residue, some kinds of glue, fresh (and only fresh) fingerprints, and some kinds of paint. Other than to remove those things, rinsing a coin in acetone is just a waste of time because acetone will have no effect - it will not remove it from the coin.

    Now granted, using the acetone isn't going to hurt anything if you do use it, but it isn't going to help anything either. So why bother doing it ? As I said it's a waste of time.

    The thing you really have to remember Hypr277 is that while some coins, and I stress some coins, can be helped or improved by using proper cleaning techniques, the majority of them cannot be helped or improved. And even for those that can be helped you still have to use the right materials and do it the right way.

    And while the actual doing of it, the proper cleaning, is the easy part, knowing which coins you should even attempt to clean is the hard part. That is the part that takes quite a few years of experience to learn.

    Bottom line, in most cases you are usually better off to just leave the coins alone, leave them as is. What I have just explained in this post, that is the reason, or one of them anyway, why the advice most often given is to - not clean your coins. The other reason is because it is all to easy to damage your coins by attempting to clean them when you do not know what you are doing - when you do not have the necessary experience to do so in other words.

    All of that said, I realize you want to learn, and that is a good thing. But the best way to learn is to experiment with coins that do not matter - experiment with pocket change - not the coins in your collection. Also, understand that learning what you need to know takes a while. Few are going to learn in a matter of months or even years which coins are good candidates for cleaning and which ones are not, as well as what to use to clean them with. So take the time, do not be in a rush, to experiment and to learn what works, and what doesn't and when.
     
    GDJMSP, Nov 22, 2017
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  10. Hypr277

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    Shouldn't I clean this thing lol this was with all the stuff I was given and another..why do all the silver coins in these Whitman folders look like this?
     

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  11. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    This too
     

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  12. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    Is there a way to save this thing lol
     

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  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Not the most attractive toning, to be sure, but circulated coins can't have the toning stripped and not be devalued.
     
    longshot, Nov 23, 2017
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  14. James S

    James S Low Mintage

    Unless your just buying junk silver to stack, I would buy them already slabbed
     
    James S, Nov 23, 2017
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  15. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    That was just in some folders , there's coins everywhere....coin purses, safes, folders, not the safest storage....they've been there over 20 years just sitting in a locked safety cabinet . All different kinds some look like that and others look good . I just didn't know if I should do something to those poor guys/gals . I want to keep them for sentimental reasons
     
    Hypr277, Nov 23, 2017
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  16. James S

    James S Low Mintage

    Oh ok
     
    James S, Nov 23, 2017
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  17. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    I was wanting to help them Somehow
     
    Hypr277, Nov 23, 2017
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  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I'd leave them as is. They'd look weirder being stripped blast white with that level of wear
     
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  19. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    Is this pvc damage? Left of D? Or no
     

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  20. Hypr277

    Hypr277 Member

    Or toning? They've not been in a flip I don't think
     
    Hypr277, Nov 23, 2017
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  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Don't mess with cleaning them. Don't even wipe them. You will destroy the value. Put them in better holders and leave them alone. If you stay with the hobby and take the time, you will understand better why you are being told this. Very few coins can be helped. Knowing the right coin that can be helped, is the hard part to learn.
    If you care nothing about them go ahead and scrub the heck out of them. That will knock the value in half.
     
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