Archaeologists Find One Of The "Finest Works Of Prehistoric Greek Art Ever"

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  1. randygeki

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  3. Mat

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  4. randygeki

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    way better pics, thanks Mat

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  5. kkathyl0

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    Pretty cool stuff and the size and detail would be difficult to replicate even with todays technology. Bravo
     
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  6. ancient coin hunter

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    A fascinating piece @randygeki - thanks for sharing.
     
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  7. chrsmat71

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    Oh wow, that's awesome!
     
  8. Severus Alexander

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    Truly amazing, thanks for posting!!
     
  9. greekandromancoins

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    Incredible!

    My eyes did not believe it so I had to google it in case it was a hoax.

    Peter
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I am always amazed at the naysayers whom state that Man could never achieve this quality of art, height of building, and any other major accomplishment during Ancient times, or in PREhistoric times.. I point to the find at Gobekli Tepi ... WIKI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
    which was originally refuted that Man could NEVER had built this 12,000 years ago! Yet, it has been dated to that time. I refuse to be myopic enough to think that Man's accomplishments, achievements, artistry, etc. has been on a linear incline since we identified Western Civilization. ... I cannot accept that Humans became more intelligent, more artistic, or more capable as we have progressed through a timeline. Rather, as proven by writings in the Ancient world 2,000-4,000 years ago reveal they were as lucid and intelligent as we are today. Why would someone, as proven by Gobekli Tepe or the OP's artistic piece, be less capable as we are today? That is gorgeous, and I cannot believe a person 2000, 3000, 10,000 or more years ago could not create the same artistry given the tools and materials.
     
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  11. Severus Alexander

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    True, but it's also true that our capabilities today are largely the product of cultural accumulation, with billions of hours of trial & error that wasn't available to this Mycenaean artist... who was clearly a genius.
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Possibly, or we just have not found other similar pieces. This is my point about Gobekli Tepe... the technology used to make that site was MUCH more advanced than what archeologists stated that Humans could create at that time. I do not believe we have been on a linear incline of technology and advancement. Too many anomolies in human achievement have been discovered, earlier and/or off that incline over time.
     
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  13. dadams

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    That is an incredible work of art and the creator was indeed a master to rival any so proclaimed. I don't think I appreciated it quite as much until I saw the line drawing and then spent 10 minutes studying the agate carving.
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    Scientist say the earth is ~4.5 billion years old - Homo Sapiens 200,000 years - modern thinking man estimated to have developed 50 thousand years ago, and some of the first Paleolithic art appears 35 -40,000 years ago. It's staggering really when you start thinking about it. A thousand years is a blink.
     
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  14. Euainetos has been shamed.
     
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  15. I had this discussion yesterday. They say the wheel was invented around 3500 BC in Sumeria; yet I would say it would be impossible to construct Gobekli Tepe without one. Especially since the quarry in which the stone was cut from lies 1/4-1/2 mile away. We don't give enough credit and assume too much; almost irresponsibly.
     
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  16. Severus Alexander

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    Rolling things on logs was known much earlier, I believe; maybe that's enough to account for Gobekli Tepe.

    I can certainly agree with y'all that ancient technology was likely more advanced than we give it credit for, but I stand by my claim that advancement mostly depends on cultural accumulation and trial & error. I also agree with @Alegandron that it wasn't linear. (E.g. certain inventions [writing, the internet] changed the slope.)
     
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