Mercury Dimes

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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Just a couple of questions about some Mercury Dimes I saw online:

    First, what the heck caused this, really worn dies?
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    Secondly is this a FSB?
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  3. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    If you are referring to the lines in the field, yes they are usually caused by a worn die.
     
  4. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yes,and maybe?? The specimen shown was struck with a worn die, full ban maybe ,depending on who grades it...it's close but I'm not seeing a total split on that middle ban.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I thought that maybe someone had poured some liquid Mercury on it... :wacky:
     
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  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Q: with the horizontal marks from the cheek, chin, fields all the way to the L in Liberty and down to the IN GOD; aren't those related to cleaning marks ?
     
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  8. John T.

    John T. Active Member

    Yes Paddyman, that Mercury does make them shine. A dealer tried to sell me a beautiful collection, older coins in excellent shape, but they had shined the coins with Mercury. I think they ruined the coins - at least for me.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Those are from polishing the die, they are raised.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am with Paddy, I am not sure if the middle band is complete, very close though.
     
  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    You would think the dealer would know the coins were ruined if mercury was added to them, and why would he even have such a thing for sale?
     
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  12. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Excellent question. :shifty:
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In this case, I don't think so. You see die wear from the metal repeatedly flowing across the surface of the die also creates lines just like that. And since the lines are also on the devices in some places I think that's exactly what they are.

    As for the 2nd coin being FB - not in my book.
     
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  14. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure what you are looking at. Look pretty normal to me.
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As, I look at that strike. I see a coin that hit the sander after a clash,
    the polish lines run through the devices, yes, it is a late die state, but, MS, non the less.
     
  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    @Kentucky, If that was in my hand. I'd prolly snag it up!
     
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  17. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Definitely a die freshened up after a clash. You can tell by the elevation of the upper bridge of the nose compared to the adjacent field.
    And, a '45-P FSB is not an easy one to come by.
     
  18. montynj3417

    montynj3417 Active Member

    Maybe, if the cleaner was armed with some sort of wire brush.
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    BTW, they are two different coins. I was just looking at the obverse photograph and wondering what caused that wavey line watery effect. Almost hurts your eyes when you enlarge it. The reverse is of a different '45 dime, but that is about as close to a fsb as I have seen on a merc. To be honest, it was only $14 and I jumped on it. When I get it, I'll try and post some pictures. This might be the first coin I have had that I would consider slabbing.
     
  20. Lemme Caution

    Lemme Caution Well-Known Member

    Watson, I do believe the game's afoot! :pompous:
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It is impossible for die polish lines to be on the devices - simply can't happen. But wear lines on the devices from metal flow, those happen all the time.
     
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