Traded Dollar 1879

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  1. icollectoldmoney

    icollectoldmoney ANA Member:3192499

    trying to figure out if this is real or fake my friend sent me a couple pictures of the coin.
     

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  3. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Im gonna say fake. Surfaces, color, and details look wrong to me.
     
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    The very first hint is the date (assuming it was not to be passed off as a proof) . . . aside from that the quality is also laughably bad.
     
  7. icollectoldmoney

    icollectoldmoney ANA Member:3192499

    Just making sure my friend wouldn’t get cheated.
     
  8. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Fake. 1879's were Proof only. This one isn't silver - it's a Chinese knock-off.
     
  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I saw Bugs Bunny use this coin in a cartoon.
     
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  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Indeed. Even ignoring the date and simply looking at the overall "coin" (lack of a better term) should be enough for anyone potentially interested to reject without question.
     
  11. icollectoldmoney

    icollectoldmoney ANA Member:3192499

    Someone try to sale to him for $500 dollars.
     
  12. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    This one imho is a bad fake ...
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yes. Typical low-quality Chinese fake.

    The term is "Trade dollar", by the way. Not "Traded dollar".
     
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  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And is really a fine example of why knowledge is so incredibly important if one is considering buying such coins, particularly if raw or from unknown sources.
     
  15. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Yikes. Fake. The lettering is atrocious. Looks like it says UBECTY instead of Liberty.
     
  16. icollectoldmoney

    icollectoldmoney ANA Member:3192499

    yeah I told him it was fake was just making sure I was right being a young collector. I know yall old timers have helped me a lot
     
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  17. Adam34falcon

    Adam34falcon Active Member

    :oldman:
     
  18. icollectoldmoney

    icollectoldmoney ANA Member:3192499

    Sorry i should of said elders
     
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  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I forgot what we were discussing.
    Carrots.
     
  20. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to sound like (no, I'm going to be one) a jerk about this.

    We have someone (the OP's friend) who is strongly considering spending $500 on something he obviously knows absolutely nothing about, and is not even willing to do any research whatsoever except "ask my friend who knows coins", and (not to attack the OP), but that coin friend is not (or doesn't seem to have) enough numismatic expertise in Trade Dollars to answer the question without having to research it himself (kudos to the OP for that).

    If this friend would spend about 6 minutes doing his own research, he would have not only known that this is a poor fake, but probably learned enough to get him started in the right direction if he's interested in obtaining a nice Trade dollar. And found the resources to verify authenticity, condition, and value (all to a point) of his next potential purchase.

    I would have just shook my head had the OP's friend bought this coin, and came on here bragging "Look what I bought!"

    People will spend weeks researching which is the best TV/refrigerator/phone etc., all of which have limited life, and nothing but depreciating value, but look how many don't do 1/10th the research in coins? That's evidence by the number "unsearched" rolls of cents are sold on a weekly basis on ebay.

    :(
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Difference being the TV/refrigerator/phone ect people know what they buy will be there's and there generally is no opportunity to make money. The chance at a great "deal" or to get something "cheap" where they would make money blinds a lot of people
     
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