Ebay coin seller whose negatives always get removed?

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  1. coinloverforever

    coinloverforever New Member

    Has anyone else noticed mikesmoneymarket's negatives are gone virtually instantly on ebay? It seems they get about five neutrals and negatives daily and they are gone almost immediately but the revised feedback count never changes? Has anyone else bought from them? I took a screenshot the other day to compare to what it is now.
     

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  3. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Not the only seller I've seen this occur with unfortunately. I've even had one of the very few negative feedbacks I've left on Ebay in 13 years of using it removed when it was entirely justified without any reason.
     
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  4. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

    I believe that eBay removes negatives for anything refunded, as the refund process nullifies the sale, which it does I suppose.

    "It's like it never happened."
     
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  5. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Anyone who falls for the hype in that seller's listing deserves what they get. He has several negatives listed right now.
     
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  6. coinloverforever

    coinloverforever New Member

    But at this high of a rate? I do understand having the occasional one or two removed here and there, but hes must have had 100 feedbacks removed in the past month. Even his positives are mostly false positives. If his feedback actually stuck I doubt anyone would ever buy from him?
     
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  7. coinloverforever

    coinloverforever New Member

    I do understand but if you look at the posted picture he has had nine neutrals dropped in a 24 hour period.
     
  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Real gold for a 30 dollar listing is enough for common sense to say move on
     
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  9. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

    You can issue a refund on anything. Buyer does not get to vote. Some unhappy people give neutral ratings because they were taught to not say anything at all if they can't say something good. People who are afraid of anything but positive ratings can combat this by refunding. Check the eBay seller terms. I might be wrong?
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Have you ever heard the old saying that if you, ahem, "mess" with the bull, you'll get the horns?

    Well, this holds true with many eBay sellers, and from the looks of it, this particular schlub is a fine example of it.
     
  11. coinloverforever

    coinloverforever New Member

    Is that how it works? If a refund is issued ebay will then treat the transaction like it never happened and will remove the negative? It still is extremely shady, I'm sure this seller has worked refunds into his profit margin. I completely understand if you are dumb enough to fall for his ad you deserve it, but new collectors do not know any better and one experience with him can turn new collectors away from the hobby.
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    There's a word for this guy...goniff
     
  13. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    The refund itself does not trigger the removal of feedback. The feedback is removed after the auction is canceled, which the seller can do without buyer's permission once the refund is made.
     
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  14. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

    thank you for that info...
     
  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    The best thing for the collector to do is get away and stay away from sellers like this. Don’t waste time worrying about such stuff as how he gets critical remarks removed.
     
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  16. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    The negative feedbacks should be left in place to warn other buyers of the seller's sleazy tactics. I think most of us look at a seller's feedbacks to see if we want to deal with them.
     
  17. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    This is the second time in two weeks that a brand new member has posted a thread calling out the same seller — one of a jillion sellers on eBay. In my book, this is too coincidental to be coincidental. Not defending questionable sellers, but this site is too often used for agendas.
     
  18. coinloverforever

    coinloverforever New Member

    But the hardest thing for uninformed collectors is they do not know to stay away from sellers like this because his feedback is so waterdowned and he dominates silver searches because he gets all of this feedback removed. Sellers like this do a disservice to the entire hobby, be it by profiting off of sham listings or souring new collectors experiences.
     
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  19. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    How can the prospective collector/buyer know if the seller is shady if seller gets his negatives removed ??
     
  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    The listings themselves give that away 99.99% of the time
     
  21. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I totally agree with you.
     
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