Artificial or natural toned Morgan?

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  1. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I see pull away but not a lot of elevation differences? Im still learning how to tell so help is appreciated!
     

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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That one wouldn't be market acceptable from the pictures
     
  4. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    @baseball21 becaues of condition or artificial toning?
     
  5. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Because of artificial toning. What you're seeing/defining as pull-away, is not true pull-away.
     
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  6. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    :rage: I can't figure out toning to save my life lol
     
  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Look at bunch of graded toned ones and that'll help you start to recognize
     
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  8. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    See how the 'pull-away' in your posted coin is happening 360° around the devices? Now look at the coin below, the pull-away is only towards the outer edge, and on one side of the devices, and not on every device. IMG_8272.JPG
     
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  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    The OP's coin looks like it was rubbed with a rag with chemical on it, no toning on field right up next to design details like toning does naturally. [see coin above]
     
  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    You could really benefit from going to some shows and spending lots of time looking at toned coins.

    Look at certified toned coins, look at raw toned coins and, most importantly, look at holdered coins that have been designated Questionable Toning or Artificial Toning.

    The more looking you do, the better you will get at recognizing the difference between natural toning and accelerated toning.
     
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  11. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I've used that Jhon. E cash site a bit and it was helpful in identifying super obvious ones. For me at least, but I definitely need to see more in hand coins. My town has a show coming up on the 16th!
     
  12. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I personally have a number of AT'd coins, but I bought them because I liked them (well, my wife thought they were 'pretty'), and they were cheap (like just over spot). Examining them I learned quite bit, but I am not by any means an expert in toning. You may want to buy 1 or 2 AT'd, and on ecertified toned coin, and do some comparing on the differences. As long as you know what you're buying, and paying a price that reflects the coin for what it is, you should be okay.
     
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  13. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I just bought a few natural toners from a friend and I think I should buy a cheap (spot hopefully) AT so I can compare. I like the idea of building a skill but its a little harder with only online pictures.
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Sheesh Lux..........that sucker was 'baked'.........
     
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  15. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    lol @green18 ik ik im working on that
     
  16. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    That ones pretty bad. One easy thing to remember is that circulated coins seldom show colors as vividly as MS examples. When you see circulated coins with nice toning, it is almost alway peripheral, or album toning.
     
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  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Roger that.
     
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