Is this a badly struck coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Makanudo, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Error is only on reverse.
    Coin is 15mm in diameter and I was unable to identify it yet.
    Coin is perfectly flat, with only anomaly in the form of a diagonal tuning fork with a point in the middle protruding above the surface of the reverse of the coin.
    I dont see how this could have happened during the course of history.

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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Either a broken die for the reverse or tough encrustation. If you look carefully you can see NOB C on the legend so my guess is Constans or Constantius II struck as Caesar.
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Also, from your last photo it appears to be a "GLORIA EXCERCITVS" type with two soldiers flanking a standard.
     
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  5. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Thanks ach!
    That means that its Constantius II , I guess...
    What about the lump in front the mouth of the ceasar?
     
  6. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    If you look slightly to the left of the lump you will see that it apparently came from his throat. The coin therefore must have been issued in recognition of his elevation in status as a public speaker.
     
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  7. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    So its a speach cloud?
    Seriously!?
    I havent seen those on the coins yet.
    Thanks
     
  8. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Don't take my remark seriously. I was speaking "tongue in cheek" (an American idiom for "kidding, joking"). In American English the expression "lump in his throat" is also an idiom, which refers to being nervous - - such as, an unskilled person concerned about making a public speech. In my remark I was saying that the coin observes when he got the lump out of his throat, that is, got the courage to speak well in public. It was all just a bit of "tomfoolery" on my part, but maybe not right for an international forum. If anyone was offended, I apologize.
     
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  9. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Hey... I know little about ancient coinage and am easy target to such jokes.
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I am sorry, but I LITERALLY bust out laughing! Had to put my drink down. LOL

    Here is my Cassius Coin for your great cartoon...

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    RR Gaius Cassius Longinus & P Corn Lentulus Spinther AR den 42 BCE military mint Brutus Cassius Smyrna Libertas r- jug & lituus 18mm 3.3g
     
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  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    How does the lump in front align with the blob on the reverse? My guess is that the coin was used for something else, maybe as jewelry or a button, a long, long time ago, perhaps even in ancient times. That blob might be an artifact of whatever was use to attach the coin to something else.
     
  12. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    The blob is 4x2mm in size and seems not to have been connected to the reverse:

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  13. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    What is that on the head on the obverse?
    I havent seen such a detail before...
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    A veil.
     
  15. Makanudo

    Makanudo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    I have seen veils , but this one seems to be in two parts and seems to be attached to some sort of a buckle below the neck.
     
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