1834 Capped Bust Half - Grade?

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  1. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Do you this this would go as low as P01, or does it make FR02? Thanks for your time!


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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Neither. Details grade if real
     
  4. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Is that because of the funky rim? That's my quick and dirty PS edit. The rim ding at 2:30 is there, but the rest of the rim is 'normal'.
     
  5. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Seller's pics (unedited):
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not the rim ding, but everything else. Half the coin is basically missing with significant detail in other parts.
     
  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I think if it graded, it would be FR-02+ possibly AG-03.

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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I agree; somewhere on the high end of FR02 or low end of AG03. Down in these lower grades, the rim ding might not hold it back, since a certain amount of dings like that can be considered to "go with the territory" when you're down at the very bottom of the grading scale.

    I do think it looks much better in the seller's original pictures against the dark background. The choppy PS edit did make it look chewier around the rims, and I just like the dark background better anyway.

    I believe this (for example, the stars missing from the left side of the obverse while they're present on the right) is likely due to an uneven strike.

    It did sort of look like a contemporary counterfeit to me at first, but only in the initial glance.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2017
  9. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    nah, too low for an AG.

    Possibly a PO-1.5
    :)
     
  11. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    :( I was really hoping for a P01.

    May become my pocket piece until it gets down there...
     
  12. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    It will grade.

    But at Fr 02 not Po 01 though.

    Not slick enough yet. Better carry it for a year or two more!
     
  13. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Is it flat? The wear pattern hints that it could have been slightly bent at one time. No way it gets a PO1, anyway. There's just too much detail left.
     
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