Hadrian Fourée Denarius imitation

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  1. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Reference.
    cf Strack 70; cf RIC II 129, cf RSC II 908, cf BMCRE III 291

    Obv. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANV(S) AVG COS III P P (sic)
    Laureate bust right, drapery on left shoulder, seen from front

    Rev. P M TR P COS III / LIBERAP AVG/ III in exergue (sic)
    Hadrian seated left on platform, making distribution to citizen standing right.

    2.13 gr
    18 mm
    6h

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-140693

    RIC 129
    Correct legends

    Obv. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG

    Rev. P M TR P COS III / LIBERAL AVG/ III in exergue

    All his official Legends for Roma mint.

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ERIC - HADRIAN 942 P hadrian Fouree immitation RIC129.jpg
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat find, Eric.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You just keep finding nice Hadrian's. I'm impressed not only with the coin but with your hunt. Congrats.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Nice fourree. Of course any time you show a fourree of Hadrian you run the risk of me posting mine:
    rc1980b00211alg.JPG
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Seeing a nice example like that makes me want to collect them. High praise indeed!

    Congrats!
     
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  8. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Wow! Fourrée and brockage! This is really rare! I had been noticed only one before!
     
  9. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Question for Mr. @dougsmit , Mr. @David Atherton , or any of our respected experts. Not a trick question.

    If the outer silver layer of a
    fourrée were damaged thus exposing the base metal during ancient times—what would the ancient Romans do with the coin? Would they continue to use it? Would it remain in circulation, or would it be discarded or turned over to an authority?

    Thanks! —DR
     
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  10. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    IMHO, I believe they should have been quickly discarded, or at best, put back with all caution and caution to circulation. The penalty of forging money or using fake money was to be thrown to be devoured by the beasts (damnatio ad bestias), depending on whether you were a slave or patrician (in which case, at best, you could be exiled ...).
     
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  11. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Thanks, @Multatuli ! Yes—I imagine the penalties would have been severe!
     
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  12. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Here it goes one recent acquisition, found in Portugal. It’s silver, not fourrée, but a very curious imitative:
    9A96EA30-0E9A-4B01-B0D7-6BA1744520B5.jpeg

    Please, take a look on legends:
    IMP HADRIANV-S AVG COS I
    INO VICTO
    (looks like Juno (?) seated, holding a patera with the right hand and a scepter with the left hand).
    17mm diameter, weight 3.0g.

    I believe that was struck not to deceive, but by people on the boundaries of the Empire, just to local circulation.
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    @Multatuli is correct. The plated coins would have been discarded and not accepted. We can tell it was an ongoing issue because of the many 'banker's' and test marks found on countless coins.
     
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I imagine the answer would be different in Rome than in the outback. Suspicious coins could be passed to people not familiar with what they should be but not city savvy people. I have seen holed fourrees so I wonder if some became jewelry or toys. When we find a coin in the dirt, we do not know if it was dropped by accident or thrown in anger.
     
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